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BiG DaN

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Re: How was it?
« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2009, 01:00:41 pm »
Likewise, it was definitely A.

Just to let you know, the multiple choice section has been added to my website with potential answers, I am also going to post a few short answer questions as well. :)

dam got 2 MC wrong :(
q2 i put the 400m lol
q7 i put c or d cant remember
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Re: How was it?
« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2009, 01:06:31 pm »
Nah don't worry mate, I'm not 100% sure on Q7... there were too many dubious questions this time. On the other exams I could be sure on pretty much all of the multiple choice questions.

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Re: How was it?
« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2009, 01:53:17 pm »
Nah don't worry mate, I'm not 100% sure on Q7... there were too many dubious questions this time. On the other exams I could be sure on pretty much all of the multiple choice questions.

u gonna scan the rest of the exam? even without solutions it would be good
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Re: How was it?
« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2009, 02:09:52 pm »
i got a question about your suggested respne to question 5 aswell

how does the aerobic system contribute to the replenishment of creatine phosphate?

i put B. i'm pretty sure there is a question on one of the vcaa exams in the last couple of years that is pretty similiar

my logic was that by having a good aerobic system providing ATP there is less reliance on the lactic acid sytem to provide ATP. by having less reliance on the lactic acid system there is a lesser amount of the fatiguing by-products that sytem creates.

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Re: How was it?
« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2009, 02:15:34 pm »
i got a question about your suggested respne to question 5 aswell

how does the aerobic system contribute to the replenishment of creatine phosphate?

i put B. i'm pretty sure there is a question on one of the vcaa exams in the last couple of years that is pretty similiar

my logic was that by having a good aerobic system providing ATP there is less reliance on the lactic acid sytem to provide ATP. by having less reliance on the lactic acid system there is a lesser amount of the fatiguing by-products that sytem creates.

the wording of this question i find a little confusing... for option A it says "atp-pc replenishment" however it isnt actually replenishing atp-pc but rather pc...
i dont remember which one i selected in the end but i remember thinking about it for a while
what does anyone else think??

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Re: How was it?
« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2009, 02:25:38 pm »
terribly worded question

is it talking about the ATP-PC energy system

or adenosine triphosphate and phosphocreatine individually?

students shouldn't be required to intepret VCAA's shit

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Re: How was it?
« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2009, 02:34:50 pm »
Sorry guys... some short answer bits are about to be uploaded, just the site is being a bit slow.

In regards to question 5.. it is definitely A - the aerobic system helps with this during EPOC - their is an "alactacid" phase and a "lactacid" phase where lactic acid is removed and where PCr is replenished. 100% sure. ATP stores are also being replenished as well.

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Re: How was it?
« Reply #37 on: November 11, 2009, 02:38:29 pm »
Sorry guys... some short answer bits are about to be uploaded, just the site is being a bit slow.

In regards to question 5.. it is definitely A - the aerobic system helps with this during EPOC - their is an "alactacid" phase and a "lactacid" phase where lactic acid is removed and where PCr is replenished. 100% sure. ATP stores are also being replenished as well.

i definately know that pc and atp are being replenished by aerobic es.... but atp-pc is an energy system not either of these fuels??
lol it is only one mc but i think it is crap wording if a is right

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Re: How was it?
« Reply #38 on: November 11, 2009, 02:39:03 pm »
Yeah I thought the answer was A because of the alactic debt
which is the first 2.5L of O2 consumed during recovery which is used to resynthesis ATP and PC

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Re: How was it?
« Reply #39 on: November 11, 2009, 02:43:29 pm »
Yep thats right mate (krm). Others, also note that athletes actually use more of their lactic acid system during maximal efforts due to a higher glycolytic capacity. P.123 and p.273 Nelson for reference.

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Re: How was it?
« Reply #40 on: November 11, 2009, 02:46:19 pm »
Sorry guys... some short answer bits are about to be uploaded, just the site is being a bit slow.

In regards to question 5.. it is definitely A - the aerobic system helps with this during EPOC - their is an "alactacid" phase and a "lactacid" phase where lactic acid is removed and where PCr is replenished. 100% sure. ATP stores are also being replenished as well.

i definately know that pc and atp are being replenished by aerobic es.... but atp-pc is an energy system not either of these fuels??
lol it is only one mc but i think it is crap wording if a is right



it says "ATP-CP stores" so that implies the stores of the atp-pc ES are PC
i agree with it being ambiguous tho
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Re: How was it?
« Reply #41 on: November 11, 2009, 02:47:48 pm »
Yep thats right mate (krm). Others, also note that athletes actually use more of their lactic acid system during maximal efforts due to a higher glycolytic capacity. P.123 and p.273 Nelson for reference.
i agree with all that and know EPOC back to front but i still dont agree with the answer because atp-pc isnt a fuel
lol
anyway i agree to disagree.. although im sure you will be right when it comes to the solutions coming out because it is everyone against me
haha
thanks for explaining though :D

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Re: How was it?
« Reply #42 on: November 11, 2009, 02:52:04 pm »
would aerobic training be valid for q10b about epoc
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Re: How was it?
« Reply #43 on: November 11, 2009, 02:52:46 pm »
:) You have to acknowledge that ATP itself is also a fuel. Obviously it's being continually resynthesized but pre-existing intramuscular ATP stores are also used.

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Re: How was it?
« Reply #44 on: November 11, 2009, 02:54:27 pm »
yeah aerobic training should be fine.. my answers weren't that clear, it can be reduced either during exercise or after exercise as well.

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Strategies to reduce EPOC include: •   lower core temperature •   undertake a passive recovery •   acclimatisation •   reduction in intensity of exercise •   more aerobic training.

Practical examples include: •   immersing the athlete in an ice bath •   placing cooling towels on the athlete •   re-hydrating the athlete with a cool drink •   having the athlete take a cold shower •   fanning the athlete •   sitting the athlete in the shade •   resting the athlete after exercise •   training the athlete in similar climates.