study scores

[red bull]

are u pretty much guaranteed an A+ for SACS if u are ranked 1st in a private school?

[EvangelionZeta]

Not necessarily.  Like any other school, it depends on the strength of your cohort.

[hard]

there are some pretty horrible private schools. e.g st josephs, parade to name a few

[Gloamglozer]

there are some pretty horrible private schools. e.g st josephs, parade to name a few

But they're actually Catholic schools just in the category of "private schools" (or independent schools if you want to be pedantic).

P.S.  Which St. Jo's are you referring to?

[hard]

there are some pretty horrible private schools. e.g st josephs, parade to name a few

But they're actually Catholic schools just in the category of "private schools" (or independent schools if you want to be pedantic).

P.S.  Which St. Jo's are you referring to?

north melbourne

[saaaaaam]

I'm curious, what's wrong with Parade?

[QuantumJG]

are u pretty much guaranteed an A+ for SACS if u are ranked 1st in a private school?

No, but there is a higher probability of you getting A+ for SAC's.

[Davoo!]

Yeah some private schools are just so crappy. Edmund Rice schools like those mentioned before, St. Joseph's College North Melbourne, Parade College, CBC St. Kilda and etc used to be soooooo good and I don't know... they seemed to have joined the ACC and became shitty.

Then you have expensive private schools like Wesley and Westbourne and despite the fortune you pay to go there the median score and % over 40 isn't even that decent.

Being ranked top for SAC's in your school does not necessarily mean A+ if the rest of your school did crap.

[Gloamglozer]

I'm curious, what's wrong with Parade?

Their median study score and % of study scores over 40 isn't up to par with other Catholic boys schools of similar size.

But that's academically speaking.  I've heard that they still have an excellent sporting programme, which is what they're famous for.

[Davoo!]

I'm curious, what's wrong with Parade?

Their median study score and % of study scores over 40 isn't up to par with other Catholic boys schools of similar size.

But that's academically speaking.  I've heard that they still have an excellent sporting programme, which is what they're famous for.

Their sporting programme from what I've heard is average. I heard St. Bernard's College Essendon is pretty decent, rumor is they've won ACC athletics 10 in a row.

Still thats nothing compared to the APS. But then again the APS has such an advantage, the amount of money that parents pay to send their kids there.

Does anyone reckon it's possible for the fallen schools like Parade, CBC and etc to rise up and be great like Xavier or anything?

[Gloamglozer]

I'm curious, what's wrong with Parade?

Their median study score and % of study scores over 40 isn't up to par with other Catholic boys schools of similar size.

But that's academically speaking.  I've heard that they still have an excellent sporting programme, which is what they're famous for.

Their sporting programme from what I've heard is average. I heard St. Bernard's College Essendon is pretty decent, rumor is they've won ACC athletics 10 in a row.

Still thats nothing compared to the APS. But then again the APS has such an advantage, the amount of money that parents pay to send their kids there.

Does anyone reckon it's possible for the fallen schools like Parade, CBC and etc to rise up and be great like Xavier or anything?

But it's a bit unfair comparing the ACC with the APS or the AGSV for the same reason.  The APS is comprised of Victoria's most elite and prestigious schools.

I don't think being part of the ACC is correlated with the academic ability of the school.  Based on the % of study scores of 40 published in the Herald Sun last year (I've got a copy of the liftout), you've got schools such as Mazenod, which is part of the ACC based on their site, that perform quite well.  Of course, you could argue that looking at one year's worth of stats is not accurate and that is true.  Despite this, I reckon even if you looked into the long term, it's not which sporting association as school belongs to that determines how well they perform, but it's the way the school is being run, what sort of academic programs the school offers and what pressures their students are being subjected to.

[redmosez]

I went to St Joes for year 11 and for a private school it's pretty sub-par (I've been to both private/public schools)

It's actually closing next year because they've gone into too much debt. There was also a rumour that they're changing to a 'special needs' school for bad kids (criminal records and what-not)

To the OP
Like many have said I don't think it guarantees you an A+, but chances are fairly good. Although chanced are also probably pretty decent if you come from a public school.

From my understanding if you're ranked 1st you get the top exam mark as your SAC mark (correct me if I'm wrong).

With that being said generally from my experience, while public schools might have weaker cohorts overall, there's usually a few outliers who performs quite well.

[Davoo!]

I went to St Joes for year 11 and for a private school it's pretty sub-par (I've been to both private/public schools)

It's actually closing next year because they've gone into too much debt. There was also a rumour that they're changing to a 'special needs' school for bad kids (criminal records and what-not)

To the OP
Like many have said I don't think it guarantees you an A+, but chances are fairly good. Although chanced are also probably pretty decent if you come from a public school.

From my understanding if you're ranked 1st you get the top exam mark as your SAC mark (correct me if I'm wrong).

With that being said generally from my experience, while public schools might have weaker cohorts overall, there's usually a few outliers who performs quite well.

I heard that it was because of falling enrollments. Still it's a shame to see a school that was once on top eventually lose it's pristine and fall. And one with such a rich history too.

[redmosez]

I went to St Joes for year 11 and for a private school it's pretty sub-par (I've been to both private/public schools)

It's actually closing next year because they've gone into too much debt. There was also a rumour that they're changing to a 'special needs' school for bad kids (criminal records and what-not)

To the OP
Like many have said I don't think it guarantees you an A+, but chances are fairly good. Although chanced are also probably pretty decent if you come from a public school.

From my understanding if you're ranked 1st you get the top exam mark as your SAC mark (correct me if I'm wrong).

With that being said generally from my experience, while public schools might have weaker cohorts overall, there's usually a few outliers who performs quite well.

I heard that it was because of falling enrollments. Still it's a shame to see a school that was once on top eventually lose it's pristine and fall. And one with such a rich history too.

Yeah we had some pretty awesome teachers there too, especially Box (the guy that writes the accounting books) and Cosgriff (spelling) a super chem teacher

[EvangelionZeta]

Yeah some private schools are just so crappy. Edmund Rice schools like those mentioned before, St. Joseph's College North Melbourne, Parade College, CBC St. Kilda and etc used to be soooooo good and I don't know... they seemed to have joined the ACC and became shitty.

Then you have expensive private schools like Wesley and Westbourne and despite the fortune you pay to go there the median score and % over 40 isn't even that decent.

Being ranked top for SAC's in your school does not necessarily mean A+ if the rest of your school did crap.

Dunno about Westbourne, but Wesley's VCE results aren't that great because they offer IB...