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Re: What % get 41-44 & 46-49 ?
« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2009, 12:12:47 am »
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LOL I cant remember anything from methods, did it nearly 2 years ago.
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Re: What % get 41-44 & 46-49 ?
« Reply #31 on: December 13, 2009, 12:16:54 am »
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Isnt PDF if you want to find what proportion get a fixed value, whilst CDF  will give you what proportion will get a range of values, hence the upper and lower bounds?
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Re: What % get 41-44 & 46-49 ?
« Reply #32 on: December 13, 2009, 12:17:12 am »
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First I did normPDF(50,30,7) and got 0.000962 which is 0.1%

Then I did what m@tty suggested and went:
normCDF(49.5,50,30,7) and got 0.000533 which is 0.05%   :o

This is confusing LOL.  And TI-Nspire rapes them all!  ;D

For upper bound put something like or or another big number, the difference is insignificant as long as its from the mean.
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Re: What % get 41-44 & 46-49 ?
« Reply #33 on: December 13, 2009, 12:20:31 am »
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Isnt PDF if you want to find what proportion get a fixed value, whilst CDF  will give you what proportion will get a range of values, hence the upper and lower bounds?
When using a form of continuous probability like the bell curve probabilities are found by determining the area under the curve. The area under a curve at a single point is zero. Therefore you must always find the probability of a range of values occuring.
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Re: What % get 41-44 & 46-49 ?
« Reply #34 on: December 13, 2009, 12:20:39 am »
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That is better :)

normCDF(49.5,10^10,30,7) gives 0.00267 which is 0.27%

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Re: What % get 41-44 & 46-49 ?
« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2009, 12:35:31 am »
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whats with the 49.5?
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Re: What % get 41-44 & 46-49 ?
« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2009, 12:36:14 am »
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It rounds up to 50.
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Re: What % get 41-44 & 46-49 ?
« Reply #37 on: December 13, 2009, 12:38:04 am »
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Isnt PDF if you want to find what proportion get a fixed value, whilst CDF  will give you what proportion will get a range of values, hence the upper and lower bounds?
When using a form of continuous probability like the bell curve probabilities are found by determining the area under the curve. The area under a curve at a single point is zero. Therefore you must always find the probability of a range of values occuring.
PDF gives the "height" of the probability density function.
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Re: What % get 41-44 & 46-49 ?
« Reply #38 on: December 13, 2009, 12:00:30 pm »
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^ matty, so its more accurate if you put the up value as 1000 or something?
i just did for 44, and i got 2.2% and for 45 its 1.6%
would this be correct?
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Re: What % get 41-44 & 46-49 ?
« Reply #39 on: December 13, 2009, 12:17:13 pm »
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I think so.
I remember reading in some VTAC publication [which I can't access now cause their site is screwed up] that Study scores are based upon a normal distribution of mean 30 and standard deviation 7 and is truncated at 0 and 50. I don't know exactly what that means, so ??? .
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For studies with large enrolments (1,000 or more):
  • 2% of students will get a score on or above 45
  • 9% of students will get a score on or above 40
  • 26% of students will get a score on or above 35
  • 53% of students will get a score on or above 30
  • 78% of students will get a score on or above 25
  • 93% of students will get a score on or above 20.

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Re: What % get 41-44 & 46-49 ?
« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2009, 12:22:02 pm »
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^ hmmm okay thanks.

isn't it odd then that it says 9% get 40+, when on the calc it says to 7.44%?
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Re: What % get 41-44 & 46-49 ?
« Reply #41 on: December 13, 2009, 12:29:07 pm »
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I get 8.74%.
Which will round to 9%, which is what they show.

normcdf(39.5,1000,30,7)=0.08736
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Re: What % get 41-44 & 46-49 ?
« Reply #42 on: December 13, 2009, 12:30:46 pm »
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I get 8.74%.
Which will round to 9%, which is what they show.

normcdf(39.5,1000,30,7)=0.08736


oh woops i didnt do the 1000 thing.

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Re: What % get 41-44 & 46-49 ?
« Reply #43 on: December 13, 2009, 06:04:33 pm »
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... wasting time .__.

ah, i just think i did it wrong, because apparently you need to go .5 less? so for 45, its 44.5, which is 1.9%
gah...

edit, i made a real one, check out nova's thread...
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,21207.msg215008.html#msg215008
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Re: What % get 41-44 & 46-49 ?
« Reply #44 on: December 21, 2009, 08:35:55 pm »
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Competition is obvious at those numbers =.=