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Re: Henry Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop bitchin' about the VCE
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2009, 04:28:37 pm »
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sorry i just felt like flaming him
he shud move on, go to uni and get into the real world
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Re: Henry Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop bitchin' about the VCE
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2009, 04:32:43 pm »
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Man I reckon he just made that little sentiment in the paper to show off his literary prowess.
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Re: Henry Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop bitchin' about the VCE
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2009, 04:35:36 pm »
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Rofl-"Hit the dancefloor-I'm serious!"
http://www.smh.com.au/national/more-cheers-than-tears-for-vce-students-20091214-ksad.html

And he got five 50s too (ESL, Chinese First Language, Chem, Physics, Spesh).  =)

Man I reckon he just made that little sentiment in the paper to show off his literary prowess.

It isn't the first time he's published something in The Age.  Compared to his last letter (which basically blasted the entire medical profession), this one was rather tame. 
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Re: Henry Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop bitchin' about the VCE
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2009, 04:37:19 pm »
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Let's just say James Lu loves to write to the Age, and maybe he is writing these letters to get recognized by the universities and be part of that "pernicious culture that considers high scholarship for its own sake quaint." ROFL
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Re: Henry Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop bitchin' about the VCE
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2009, 04:41:34 pm »
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sorry i just felt like flaming him
he shud move on, go to uni and get into the real world

lol because i thought cunt was a term reserved for females :P haha
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Re: Henry Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop bitchin' about the VCE
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2009, 04:43:45 pm »
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hahahah 'im serious'-----> 'that's why its funny'
In any case, if he believed VCE to be the source of mediocrity then he should take a look at his own subject selection. He utilised the very system of scaling that he so harshly denigrated to his advantage, having done ESL and Chinese and a further 4 subjects that scales by a huge margin. Perhaps he chose the subjects that interested him. My older sister got 99.95 a few years back, having had a thorough education in our native tongue and speaking english for only 5 years she still decided to do English as a first language(or the main stream english) as well as not picking Chinese or Vietnamese cause she felt like there was nothing to add to her already proficient practice(i have no doubt she would off gotten 50 in both). She chose to verse herself in science and maths cause it interested her. Chinese as a first language connot compare to the rigor off the chinese curriculum back in china
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Re: Henry Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop bitchin' about the VCE
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2009, 04:46:25 pm »
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I might be confused, but is this his subject selection or am i vilifying the wrong peron.
And he got five 50s too (ESL, Chinese First Language, Chem, Physics, Spesh).  =) 
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Re: Henry Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop bitchin' about the VCE
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2009, 04:48:29 pm »
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It was the "dance floor" guy who did Chinese and ESL - James did English, Literature, Chemistry, Specialist, Methods, Environmental Science and Uni Maths.  I don't think scaling is particularly relevant to him given he got 50 in everything (well, apart from Spesh scaling to 52, but he would have gotten 99.95 without that anyway).  Also, Enviro actually scales down, so yeah.  :p
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Re: Henry Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop bitchin' about the VCE
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2009, 04:55:14 pm »
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haha fine, then criticism retracted
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Re: Henry Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop bitchin' about the VCE
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2009, 05:08:55 pm »
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Who is this guy??? *hyperventilates* how do you get five 50s????
Calm down, the guy is clearly a freak

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Re: Henry Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop bitchin' about the VCE
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2009, 05:09:58 pm »
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LOL I agree :P
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Re: Henry Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop bitchin' about the VCE
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2009, 05:58:06 pm »
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Forgive me if I sound a bit slow, but I really don't see how the fact that some subjects scale more than others, and furthermore that some people exploit this phenomenon, necessarily leads directly to a "vocational vortex" of "[educational] mediocrity." The reason for poor educational standards is more a question of how much one values personal and intellectual development; I imagine that very few people revere their education as an opportunity to undertake "high scholarship for its own sake", and simply setting aside some statistical trickery is not going to redress this deeply-rooted problem.

Admittedly, yes, scaling perhaps provides an undue reward to a careless or lazy student doing certain subjects over a dedicated student doing others. However, this does not automatically suggest that poor scholarship is rewarded outright; those who are sure they are capable of achieving a 50 in a subject (for instance) are going to pursue their interests regardless, and be handsomely rewarded for their efforts.

On the less contentious points, I do agree with the writer's assertion that the focus on numbers, at the expense of true depth in study, is detrimental. Again, however, I imagine that the added educational depth he so desires would only be appreciated by a select few, highly self-motivated students: as he correctly identifies, most view education as simply a means to a vocational end. I don't think there's anything wrong with this worldview per se, although I don't subsribe to it myself.
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Re: Henry Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop bitchin' about the VCE
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2009, 07:04:12 pm »
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It is a bit sad that VCE basically confines what you learn to a set "syllabus".  There's no real room for academic discovery on your own in that respect; you'd be considered "wasting your time" if you went out and read/learned more than what the course necessitated, whereas in systems like IB where the depth is almost limitless (I think?) you'd be getting a lot more out of it. 

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Re: Henry Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop bitchin' about the VCE
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2009, 07:13:34 pm »
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Man I reckon he just made that little sentiment in the paper to show off his literary prowess.

definitely. pernicious? gtfo.

i agree with jejak.