Scaling modifications

[brightsky]

I was just wondering, is there a reason why they lowered the scaling of Chinese SL, but raised the scaling for Chinese SLA in 2009?

[stonecold]

What is the difference between SL and SLA?

[IntoTheNewWorld]

Scaling isn't really decided by anyone, it just varies year by year depending on the strength of the respective cohorts =]

The Chinese SL cohort this year was just stronger than last years, while the SLA cohort was weaker. It all works out in the end (in theory)

[Liuy]

SL was still scaled from 8-12 whilst SLA 7-10, it wasn't really lower scaling.

[Gloamglozer]

What is the difference between SL and SLA?

LOTE: Chinese has three groups.  FL (First Language), SLA (Second Language Advanced) and SL (Second Language).

From the VCAA website:

Chinese Second Language

A student is NOT eligible for Chinese Second Language if they have had either:

• 12 months or more education in a school where Chinese is the medium of instruction, or
• 3 years (36 months) or more residence in any of the VCAA nominated countries or regions.

The nominated countries and regions are China, Taiwan, Hong Kong or Macau.

Chinese Second Language Advanced

A student is eligible for Chinese Second Language Advanced if:

• they have had no more than 7 years of education in a school where Chinese is the medium of instruction, and
• the highest level of education attained in a school where Chinese is the medium of instruction is no greater than the equivalent of Year 7 in a Victorian school.

The time periods referred to in these criteria will be counted cumulatively since the time of the student’s birth.

As the formal education commencement age for a Victorian student is 5 years of age, then all applicants will be deemed to have commenced formal education by the end of their 5th year of age, regardless of the setting.

[kyzoo]

SLA scaled more than SL this year if the RAW score was more than 45.

[iheartu]

If I completed SL in year 11 in 2009... does that mean I get scaled amongst the chinese students in 2009 or the bunch of students in 2010?

[Gloamglozer]

If I completed SL in year 11 in 2009... does that mean I get scaled amongst the chinese students in 2009 or the bunch of students in 2010?

Your scaling for SL will be based on the scaling in 2009.  This is because the scaling is always based on the year you completed the subject.

However, /0 was complaining that his Methods score was scaled with this year's cohort, despite completing Methods in 2008.  So maybe there was a mistake there, perhaps?

Despite this, VTAC will say:

VCE studies are always scaled in the year in which they were undertaken (this may not necessarily be in the year in which you receive your ENTER).

This is according to the ABC of Scaling pdf booklet.

[TrueTears]

If I completed SL in year 11 in 2009... does that mean I get scaled amongst the chinese students in 2009 or the bunch of students in 2010?

Your scaling for SL will be based on the scaling in 2009.  This is because the scaling is always based on the year you completed the subject.

However, /0 was complaining that his Methods score was scaled with this year's cohort, despite completing Methods in 2008.  So maybe there was a mistake there, perhaps?

Despite this, VTAC will say:

VCE studies are always scaled in the year in which they were undertaken (this may not necessarily be in the year in which you receive your ENTER).

This is according to the ABC of Scaling pdf booklet.

Hmm Chinese SLA I know for sure was scaled according to this years. I am unsure of SL though.

[Gloamglozer]

If I completed SL in year 11 in 2009... does that mean I get scaled amongst the chinese students in 2009 or the bunch of students in 2010?

Your scaling for SL will be based on the scaling in 2009.  This is because the scaling is always based on the year you completed the subject.

However, /0 was complaining that his Methods score was scaled with this year's cohort, despite completing Methods in 2008.  So maybe there was a mistake there, perhaps?

Despite this, VTAC will say:

VCE studies are always scaled in the year in which they were undertaken (this may not necessarily be in the year in which you receive your ENTER).

This is according to the ABC of Scaling pdf booklet.

Hmm Chinese SLA I know for sure was scaled according to this years. I am unsure of SL though.

It should have been scaled according to last year's cohort since you did it last year.  Maybe VTAC is lying.... 

[TrueTears]

If I completed SL in year 11 in 2009... does that mean I get scaled amongst the chinese students in 2009 or the bunch of students in 2010?

Your scaling for SL will be based on the scaling in 2009.  This is because the scaling is always based on the year you completed the subject.

However, /0 was complaining that his Methods score was scaled with this year's cohort, despite completing Methods in 2008.  So maybe there was a mistake there, perhaps?

Despite this, VTAC will say:

VCE studies are always scaled in the year in which they were undertaken (this may not necessarily be in the year in which you receive your ENTER).

This is according to the ABC of Scaling pdf booklet.

Hmm Chinese SLA I know for sure was scaled according to this years. I am unsure of SL though.

It should have been scaled according to last year's cohort since you did it last year.  Maybe VTAC is lying.... 

Hmmm, I dono my scaled score was different to the the ENTER Calc's for last year, teacher at school also said it was scaled according to this years when I asked him last year.

[Gloamglozer]

If I completed SL in year 11 in 2009... does that mean I get scaled amongst the chinese students in 2009 or the bunch of students in 2010?

Your scaling for SL will be based on the scaling in 2009.  This is because the scaling is always based on the year you completed the subject.

However, /0 was complaining that his Methods score was scaled with this year's cohort, despite completing Methods in 2008.  So maybe there was a mistake there, perhaps?

Despite this, VTAC will say:

VCE studies are always scaled in the year in which they were undertaken (this may not necessarily be in the year in which you receive your ENTER).

This is according to the ABC of Scaling pdf booklet.

Hmm Chinese SLA I know for sure was scaled according to this years. I am unsure of SL though.

It should have been scaled according to last year's cohort since you did it last year.  Maybe VTAC is lying.... 

Hmmm, I dono my scaled score was different to the the ENTER Calc's for last year, teacher at school also said it was scaled according to this years when I asked him last year.

Weird.  Have you contacted VTAC about this if it is a large discrepancy?

[TrueTears]

If I completed SL in year 11 in 2009... does that mean I get scaled amongst the chinese students in 2009 or the bunch of students in 2010?

Your scaling for SL will be based on the scaling in 2009.  This is because the scaling is always based on the year you completed the subject.

However, /0 was complaining that his Methods score was scaled with this year's cohort, despite completing Methods in 2008.  So maybe there was a mistake there, perhaps?

Despite this, VTAC will say:

VCE studies are always scaled in the year in which they were undertaken (this may not necessarily be in the year in which you receive your ENTER).

This is according to the ABC of Scaling pdf booklet.

Hmm Chinese SLA I know for sure was scaled according to this years. I am unsure of SL though.

It should have been scaled according to last year's cohort since you did it last year.  Maybe VTAC is lying.... 

Hmmm, I dono my scaled score was different to the the ENTER Calc's for last year, teacher at school also said it was scaled according to this years when I asked him last year.

Weird.  Have you contacted VTAC about this if it is a large discrepancy?

Nah, it is higher than last year's by ~0.1 or so, so I'm happy

[kyzoo]

If I completed SL in year 11 in 2009... does that mean I get scaled amongst the chinese students in 2009 or the bunch of students in 2010?

Your scaling for SL will be based on the scaling in 2009.  This is because the scaling is always based on the year you completed the subject.

However, /0 was complaining that his Methods score was scaled with this year's cohort, despite completing Methods in 2008.  So maybe there was a mistake there, perhaps?

Despite this, VTAC will say:

VCE studies are always scaled in the year in which they were undertaken (this may not necessarily be in the year in which you receive your ENTER).

This is according to the ABC of Scaling pdf booklet.

Hmm Chinese SLA I know for sure was scaled according to this years. I am unsure of SL though.

It should have been scaled according to last year's cohort since you did it last year.  Maybe VTAC is lying.... 

Hmmm, I dono my scaled score was different to the the ENTER Calc's for last year, teacher at school also said it was scaled according to this years when I asked him last year.

All the RAW scores I've put into the ENTER calculator end up with scaled scores which are 0.1-0.2 below the actual scaled score. E.g. 49 Physics scales to 49.4 in the calculator when it actually scales to 49.58.

[appianway]

Doesn't scaling depend on where you sit within the range of study scores?