attorney general/governor in council

[LFTM]

We've also started on the constitution. My sac is tmr
With the vic law reform, you dont necessarily need to remember that one you can choose any of the formal law reform bodies.

[LFTM]

Also, on my practice sac it asks to discuss 3 ways the legislative process is effective, would i just mention 3 strengths of parliament?

[Albeno69]

Also, on my practice sac it asks to discuss 3 ways the legislative process is effective, would i just mention 3 strengths of parliament?

na i would mention ,
1) allows debate
2) A vote occurs if not majority doesn't pass hence without a rubber stamp, it allows close criticism from both partys.
3)the legislative process is effective as they are voted in if they dont do as majority of votes want they'll be voted out of office.
this is just my opinion of what i would write on a sac.

[Albeno69]

process of a bill.

100% of all sacs/exams will be asked to describe the second reading stage because that's the hardest step to remember and it will most likely ask you to compare it to another stage

wrong they do sometimes ask for different stages such as royal assent

just know them all, not to hard

[Visionz]

I had to explain the second reading in my SAC.



Second reading
First of all the second reading stage is one of the most important stages as this is the stage of most thorough debate regarding the broad principles of a bill.

- In Victoria a bill is assessed for its compatibility with the Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities

During the second reading speech:
- The ministers introducing the bills into the respective houses must each produce a STATEMENT OF COMPATIBILITY outling the nature and extent of any incompatibilities with the Charter
- The relevant minster outlines the purpose of the bill
- at the end of the second reading speech the minister issues an EXPLANATORY MEMORANDUM outling the reasons and provisions of the bill.

Debate is usually adjourned so members of parliament can explore the terms of the bill and guage public opinion.

The second reading debate usually commences with the relevant opposition minister delivering the MAIN OPPOSITION SPEECH. Members of the Government and the Opposition then speak in turn. The broad principles of a bill are debated during this stage.

At the end of the debate a vote is taken.

[chocolate05]

Also, on my practice sac it asks to discuss 3 ways the legislative process is effective, would i just mention 3 strengths of parliament?

na i would mention ,
1) allows debate
2) A vote occurs if not majority doesn't pass hence without a rubber stamp, it allows close criticism from both partys.
3)the legislative process is effective as they are voted in if they dont do as majority of votes want they'll be voted out of office.
this is just my opinion of what i would write on a sac.

id write three weakness and juxtapose them with three strengths = and just to clarify thats 3 paragraphs not 6 lol!

[LFTM]

Also, on my practice sac it asks to discuss 3 ways the legislative process is effective, would i just mention 3 strengths of parliament?

na i would mention ,
1) allows debate
2) A vote occurs if not majority doesn't pass hence without a rubber stamp, it allows close criticism from both partys.
3)the legislative process is effective as they are voted in if they dont do as majority of votes want they'll be voted out of office.
this is just my opinion of what i would write on a sac.

id write three weakness and juxtapose them with three strengths = and just to clarify thats 3 paragraphs not 6 lol!

But its asking for ways in which the process is effective, why do i need to mention weaknesses?
Question is worth 6 marks btw.

[spaciiey]

Questions that begin with the keyword 'discuss' imply that you are meant to look at the strengths and the weaknesses, too. If it says 'evaluate', then you're sposed to look at the strengths, corresponding weaknesses and come up with a conclusion, too.

[LFTM]

Ok. Thanks

[darcy42]

your situation sounds very similar to mine there, albeno69. except my sac on changing the law is tomorrow. we had to read the constitution stuff ourselves are start doing some questions, which i thought was odd as it took time away from studying for the sac.

[LFTM]

Could this be one of my points:

There are conflicting views within the community on some issues and it is not always possible to determine the majority view to represent in legislation. But parliament has the ability to change or make laws at any time when the need arises.
Doesn't sound right......im assuming i would discuss the weakness then the strength? 

[darcy42]

id probably talk about how the complex scrutiny is a strength, and although there is often delays in the legislative process (a weakness,) this is necesarry as the review associated with making a law ensures that the law is accurate and effective.
then probably say that parliament is able to delegate legislation, which allows specialist bodies such as TAC to make laws in their specific areas, making the law more likely to be accurate. although this is the case, parliament often fails to supervise delegated legislation, meaning that law could be made without adequate debate/review/whatever. to increase the effectiveness of the system, parliament should still delegate legislation, but spend more time supervising law made by subordinate authorities.
and maybe just say that the time associated with making a law allows the bill to be publicly debated, so that any amendments that are commonly agreed upon can be included. parliament doesnt rush through making an act, it ensures that it is as beneficial as possible to society.

then again could be completely wrong haha

[Visionz]

Thats not a perfect example...
As I said before, theres a table on pg95 in the justice and outcomes book. It has a strength in the left column and then right next to it is the weakness that relates perfectly. Get your points from there. Half the marks on the SAC I did were based on info in this table! Chances are it'll be the same for you.

[darcy42]

course its not havent even studied for the sac
so you do recommend relating each strength with a weakness? i wouldnt expect many in my class to know to do that, most would probably choose one opinion and stick to it, then again we havent done very much on it in class

[Visionz]

course its not havent even studied for the sac
so you do recommend relating each strength with a weakness? i wouldnt expect many in my class to know to do that, most would probably choose one opinion and stick to it, then again we havent done very much on it in class

I was referring to LFTM.

But definitely relate the advtages and disadvantages.
Ie. parliament has access to extensive resources and can therefore make comprehensive laws. However the process is time consuming and costly.
Thats 1 strength and 1 weakness - 2 marks.