MMI Info [Monash 2011]

[vexx]

Yes, especially this year, because monash hasnt run a MMI before so no one will (well should outside of monash faculty) have an idea of the questions and couldnt possibly study for them or anything like that.

So, especially this in 2011, the MMI will be fantastic.

I cant see a way an enter could correlate to a good doctor, someone who gets 80 might be fantastic and just might of messed up one subject. If you dont study hard, theyll catch you later on in the degree anyway. The whole university admission system is flawed but thats for another thread..

[Thanks but i already found the correct email  :laugh:]

Yeah there are people who have gotten into medicine and such with very low enters (after going through graduate medicine) but just a thought: someone who applies for undergrad medicine and achieves an enter of 80 would have not that well in any subject and they wouldn't want someone who hasn't applied themself in high school, or perhaps isn't able to keep up with the demanding course of medicine. so of course it's a good requirement to have "high 90s" even if for some it's quite difficult due to a particular subjects (f* you english)

but if one achieves a low enter, they can just do a bachelor's degree and no one cares about your enter anymore. no difference between 60 or 95, etc.

[stonecold]

^damn straight.  english (in all its forms) and umat are ruining my vce!

[vexx]

^damn straight.  english (in all its forms) and umat are ruining my vce!

haha and you are doing two englishes, that's annoying;p except englang isn't too bad you have to admit? just seems really hard to do well in is all.

[naved_s9994]

^damn straight.  english (in all its forms) and umat are ruining my vce!

haha and you are doing two englishes, that's annoying;p except englang isn't too bad you have to admit? just seems really hard to do well in is all.

I guess the same, could be said about all englishes..

[stonecold]

they both cancel out. i've got no idea which i'm going to do better in.  englang is way more interesting, but imo a lot harder because you can't make any kind of claim unless you can back it up with metalanguage/examples/evidence.  english on the other hand bores me to death, especially text response, but it is probably easier...  language analysis is okay, and context isn't too bad because you can write whatever you want. 

for me, it was probably a good move to not just take EL, because atm, i have serious doubts about whether or not i can do well in it.  everyone says englang is for students who like maths/science.  i don't really agree with this in a sense that maths/science just makes logical sense, and that's how i remember stuff.  EL isn't really logic based, and just depends on remembering copious amounts of stuff.  it is very structured though, which i can see that some people would like.

but i finally wrote my eng oral today, i'd been saying i was going to do it each day for like the past two weeks...i cant believe i actually got it done today, i've been putting it off for the next day for so long haha!

[slothpomba]

Eng lang isnt terrible at all as im finding, its just highly technical with lots of metalanguage and concepts, i can see how someone could be left behind.

[Gloamglozer]

everyone says englang is for students who like maths/science.  i don't really agree with this in a sense that maths/science just makes logical sense, and that's how i remember stuff.  EL isn't really logic based, and just depends on remembering copious amounts of stuff.  it is very structured though, which i can see that some people would like.

To do well in EL, you also need to do a LOT of research by doing extensive reading, be it books or the media.  Then from the reading you also need to harvest good and original examples to use in your essays where appropriate.  In Unit 3, it's not really logic based as I found it to be very loosely tied together.  But in Unit 4, where you'll study spoken and written language, you'll find that the two do overlap in some aspects and is much more "logical" when you analyse the texts.

[Caspar]

yeah, high enter is certainly desirable, unless you want to be given an ERC place.  According to the MedEntry guy, the median enter for mbbs was 98.

Monash median enter last year was 99.5, that being said, enter is given the least weighting in the secret monash entry formula.

[stonecold]

Eng lang isnt terrible at all as im finding, its just highly technical with lots of metalanguage and concepts, i can see how someone could be left behind.

I've realised that I like EL better than regular English after getting back some SAC marks haha.  But in all honesty I have a much better chance of writing a quality essay and answering some questions in two hours than I have of writing 3 quality 1000+ word pieces in three hours.

Plus, in English you really have to articulate well, and make your essays sound all nice and fluffy lol, whereas in EL you just need to be clear, concise and to the point.  It doesn't have to read like Shakespeare .
Plus you can do practise essays that cover most topics in English Language, whereas in English, they could really pull any shit!

And wow, 99.5 is super high, but yeah i've heard of people with 97's getting into Monash, so i'm not too concerned.  UMAT and then if i make it to the interview both look very daunting though!

[slothpomba]

I've heard of people with enters as low of 88 getting in but they were ERC

[vexx]

I've heard of people with enters as low of 88 getting in but they were ERC

i was under the impression that even ERC you cannot be lower than 90, it's what they told me... ?

[stonecold]

I really have no interest in ERC.  even if i got offered a place I would probably knock it back...

[superflya]

wats ERC?

[stonecold]

extended rural cohort.  basically means you've got to work out in the sticks for x amount of years...

[shinny]

extended rural cohort.  basically means you've got to work out in the sticks for x amount of years...

That's bonded. My understanding of ERC is that in your clinical years (3,4 and 5), you have to do your placement in rural. I might be wrong though, or there might be more to it.