ENTER scores

[clinton_09]

hey, i dont know whether this is true or not. Someone said that to get a first round offer at university u have to get 3 plus more points above the required ENTER eg if a course is 90, u need 93 above. Is there someone that can clarify this. Thanks alot.

[costargh]

Its a load of crap. There is no guarenteed ENTER for a course. It can only be predicted against the Cleary-In from the previous year (or other years).

Being a bit over does give you a better chance though however you could be 3 points over last years Cleary-In and still miss out. You could be 3 points UNDER last years and still get in.

[brendan]

hey, i dont know whether this is true or not. Someone said that to get a first round offer at university u have to get 3 plus more points above the required ENTER eg if a course is 90, u need 93 above. Is there someone that can clarify this. Thanks alot.

i think what he meant was that to be safe side, you should be aiming to get 3 enter points above last year's clearly-in. though its not strictly necessary because the clearly-in ENTER for a year is not predetermined.

[maxleng]

you can still get in with a lower enter than the current year's clearly-in, if you did certain subjects that gave you extra aggregate points in the middle band.

[avogarbro]

Normally people who get into a course with an ENTER score lower than the the clearly-in score, have applied through SEAS or through middle-band selection. However I'm not sure about the term "fringe" as I have seen fringes that are higher than cut-offs.

[Collin Li]

Middle-band and aggregate bonuses may not be the same thing. For example, I think all of the middle band in Melbourne goes to Access applicants. The fringe shows the lowest ENTER that got in without middle-band requirements - these are people who were preferred over other applicants because of their study scores in particular subjects. The clearly-in is the ENTER score you need without any aggregate bonuses.

[daniel99]

So if you do not get the required the enter e.g. if you only get 90 instead of 93, is it possible that you will get in and it would still be under a CSP position?

[Eriny]

It's very possible. One of my friends got a first round, CSP offer and his ENTER was 10 below the cut-off of the previous year.

[Mao]

So if you do not get the required the enter e.g. if you only get 90 instead of 93, is it possible that you will get in and it would still be under a CSP position?

yes, but dont risk your yr12 on that possibility

[daniel99]

lol i thought if you didnt get last years minimum enter or close enough to it, you didn't even get considered for the course.

[costargh]

Nah. Required ENTER's generally go by demand and supply. The more demand their is for a course, the higher the ENTER req. will be. If the demand substantially drops the next year and supply does not fall to the same level (which it usually doesn't) , then the ENTER will be lower.

That's just the general idea anyway

[daniel99]

"Required ENTER's generally go by demand and supply"......obviously you do economics!

[costargh]

"Required ENTER's generally go by demand and supply"......obviously you do economics!

LOL. The wonders of this subject. :smitten:

[Rietie]

While economics helps many things, I would never, ever, ever study it.

[Collin Li]

While economics helps many things, I would never, ever, ever study it.

Any reason why?

Why is economics unpopular? Is it because there is a misconception that economics is all about money? (I suggest you read that article, it's a good read)

Accounting is present for every adult Australian. Managing taxes + monies. It teaches you a lot about personal finance. Economics does not apply to everyone as many people wish to stick their head in the stand re: global/national economy.

You hold the common misconception that economics is about this abstract concept called the "economy," supposedly being separate from society. Economics would probably teach logical thought and critical thinking a lot clearer than any other subject in the VCE. I have never stopped thinking about unintended consequences and effects ever since...