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Trig: General Solutions
« on: May 01, 2010, 03:27:16 pm »
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Hi, need help with gen solutions!!!

From 0-2 pie

sin^2x = 1/4

2cos^2 theta + cos theta = 0

2 sin^2x = 3 cosx

sin(theta + pie/4) = 1/2

4 sin theta = 5 cos theta ( write in the form of tan)

cos 2 theta + cos theta = 0

sin 2 theta + cos theta = 0

2 tan theta + cot theta = 3

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Re: Trig: General Solutions
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2010, 03:30:52 pm »
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For general solutions to trig equations just use the following formulae:





where n=Z
« Last Edit: May 01, 2010, 03:42:00 pm by stonecold »
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Re: Trig: General Solutions
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2010, 03:39:50 pm »
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And those aren't general solutions which you've posted up.  They all have actual solutions.

General solutions are for where you aren't given a domain...

Just use algebra and the exact values for sin, cos and tan where theta = 30, 45, 60 and 90 degrees.
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Re: Trig: General Solutions
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2010, 09:02:57 pm »
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Hey stonecold what textbook are you using?
I'm just curious because my textbook gives a different general solution for sine equations which works but seems longer compared to the one you've posted.

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Re: Trig: General Solutions
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2010, 09:25:15 pm »
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Vea I think there's two different expressions for the general solution for sin.

Side question, do we have to know this stuff? My teacher never even mentioned it, nor did my spesh teacher.
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Re: Trig: General Solutions
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2010, 09:55:10 pm »
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Vea I think there's two different expressions for the general solution for sin.

Side question, do we have to know this stuff? My teacher never even mentioned it, nor did my spesh teacher.

Yeah, it comes up in exams.
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Re: Trig: General Solutions
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2010, 03:52:43 pm »
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Vea I think there's two different expressions for the general solution for sin.

Side question, do we have to know this stuff? My teacher never even mentioned it, nor did my spesh teacher.

Yeah the one I learnt is



The first one is for the solution in the first quadrant while the second one is for the solution in the second quadrant.
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Re: Trig: General Solutions
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2010, 04:54:55 pm »
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Actually, I really like stonecold's , it's rather smart

Logically though, you can just work out simple solutions first, then add or on the end to suit.
This is easier to apply in an exam situation :)
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Re: Trig: General Solutions
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2010, 05:40:18 pm »
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Actually, I really like stonecold's , it's rather smart

Logically though, you can just work out simple solutions first, then add or on the end to suit.
This is easier to apply in an exam situation :)

stonecold's method seems much shorter and less prone to mistakes. Can't be bothered learning it anymore since I've already got my other formula... haha lazy
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Re: Trig: General Solutions
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2010, 05:47:44 pm »
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Vea I think there's two different expressions for the general solution for sin.

Side question, do we have to know this stuff? My teacher never even mentioned it, nor did my spesh teacher.

Yeah the one I learnt is



The first one is for the solution in the first quadrant while the second one is for the solution in the second quadrant.

Yea stonecold's is like a joined one with both.

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Re: Trig: General Solutions
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2010, 01:41:10 pm »
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after you found the general solution how do find all the solutions for x in the interval of (-pie,pie) or (-1,1)?

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Re: Trig: General Solutions
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2010, 05:16:56 pm »
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Sub in different (integer) values of n to get your answers
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Re: Trig: General Solutions
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2010, 05:38:46 pm »
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ohhh thought so but book had diff i think they used -1, -2, -3 :S

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Re: Trig: General Solutions
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2010, 09:20:02 pm »
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I hate using letters in maths... I think like this for a general soln:
x = your angle +- period*n, n belongs integers (Z)
x = your other angle +- period*n, n belongs integers (Z)

It's much the same as above, just expressed in a way I like. I found general soln much easier to understand if you look at them graphically on the circle... you have an angle, say pi/4, add a period (2pi) and youll be there again - you can do this infinite times. Same for your other angle... I leave it as I've written it above, dont put it all into one equation with a +- in it or whatever... just leaves more room for error. It's not like it's a vital skill you'll need in your life anyway! And if you do, you'll have a calculator ;)

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Re: Trig: General Solutions
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2010, 06:26:46 pm »
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What's confusing me with this stuff is why is the equations so complicated and stuff when you can just add 2pi to each solution for 1 cycle? Such as x=pi/3+2pi*k where k is an integer