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Re: Errors!
« Reply #45 on: June 05, 2010, 12:13:51 am »
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Or rather there is less. meaning it will need more. OVERESTIMATE
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Re: Errors!
« Reply #46 on: June 05, 2010, 12:24:13 am »
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Is it just me or is it impossible to finish TSFX papers on time
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Re: Errors!
« Reply #47 on: June 05, 2010, 12:25:20 am »
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I got 2010 done and the bonus questions in 1h 10m i think its only you?
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Re: Errors!
« Reply #48 on: June 05, 2010, 12:25:39 am »
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Ok the way I worked it out was from a table that had a list of all the possible effects.
I noticed the ones that where there was extra water (e.g. in burette/pippette/Volumetric flask (e.g. deliquescent standard, or overshot the mark), etc) all resulted in the same result - if it was the known, it increased the concentration. If it was the unknown (obviously not the volumetric flask though), it would decrease the concentration.

Strictly speaking, dilutions will not effect your result - unless you are using volume to calculate. So diluting a conical flask has no effect.

Now the assumption is if you have same volume, more water, this lowers the concentration. The inverse is true as well. More moles, less water, higher concentration.

Now if you have a lower concentrated unknown, you'll work out a lower concentrated unknown. You have a higher concentrated unknown, you'll work out a higher concentrated unknown. Simple as that.
If you have a lower concentrated known, this means MORE is needed. hence you'll work out a higher concentration of unknown. This is the hard one to get your head around with. Basically it would be the opposite.

So dilution, but keeping same volume = lower moles delivered.
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Re: Errors!
« Reply #49 on: June 05, 2010, 12:29:49 am »
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And you had no mistakes Martoman?
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Re: Errors!
« Reply #50 on: June 05, 2010, 12:31:54 am »
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no no lost 3 one of my best scores so far
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Re: Errors!
« Reply #51 on: June 05, 2010, 12:33:08 am »
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I see.. How long did it take you to finish last year's Methods?
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Re: Errors!
« Reply #52 on: June 05, 2010, 12:34:07 am »
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VCE one
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Re: Errors!
« Reply #53 on: June 05, 2010, 12:36:18 am »
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no no lost 3 one of my best scores so far

that is crazy!
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Re: Errors!
« Reply #54 on: June 05, 2010, 12:37:15 am »
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no no lost 3 one of my best scores so far

that is crazy!

She's just too good :P
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Re: Errors!
« Reply #55 on: June 05, 2010, 12:37:56 am »
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I bet she'll finish the VCE exam in 20 minutes   :buck2:
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« Reply #56 on: June 05, 2010, 12:39:34 am »
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She finished 09 in 15 minutes... NOT! :p
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Re: Errors!
« Reply #57 on: June 05, 2010, 12:40:15 am »
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no no lost 3 one of my best scores so far

that is crazy!

She's just too good :P

lol yeah i feel so stupid compared to all the vce noters. i mean, im not even averaging 90's in these prac exams xD
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« Reply #58 on: June 05, 2010, 12:40:29 am »
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From memory it was around 45 - 50 without checks for the second one. The first one I was just drawing pretty pictures on the last question.

She finished 09 in 15 minutes... NOT! :p

lol matty
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Re: Errors!
« Reply #59 on: June 05, 2010, 12:41:39 am »
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Are you an overseas student?
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