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[ninwa]

Pretty sure it's just JD. LLM(JD) is rather misleading...

See here:
The Master of Laws is an advanced academic degree,(as opposed to a professional degree in law, such as the Juris Doctor)

no, again going off the oh so trusty brochure

The appropiate designation is 'Jane Smith, LLM (Juris Doctor)'

out of intrest niwa, seeing as you are one out of "academics and the slightly crazy people who for some reason like law." what area of law are you concidering to do your (real ) masters in?

Oh that's so lame. Where's my LLM??? I do the same subjects as those slacker JDs pfft *goes off in a huff*

Re: masters - not really sure at the moment. I have a few vague interests... of course the almost cliche international human rights law which pretty much everyone wants to do, also medical negligence, issues in constitutional law, the psychiatric aspects of criminal law... I'll probably do an honours thesis on one of these areas and see if I enjoy it enough to spend 3 years on it...

[tram]

lol, kks, wow, looking at the master of laws site, they don't offer CSP places....that's rather "lame" too.....

[AzureBlue]

That makes much more sense... dodgy brochures lol - so JD is just the equivalent of an LLB apart from the fact that it's done after an undergraduate course from another department. So if I complete my JD at UoM and I become very interested in law and want to pursue more research/studies I take the LLM?
http://www.masters.law.unimelb.edu.au/

[tram]

So if I complete my JD at UoM and I become very interested in law and want to pursue more research/studies I take the LLM?

yes

[tram]

A question more directed at ninwa:

Do you know if the course quality of the JD will be anyworse than the LLB? The JD is taught on the city, far away from the main clayton campus. Would all the 'good' lecturers be working at the main campus, hence the JD people would be left with the worse lecurers?

[Russ]

I also resent the shots at the melbourne model! Since you people are talking about law, I'm running from this thread now

[ninwa]

A question more directed at ninwa:

Do you know if the course quality of the JD will be anyworse than the LLB? The JD is taught on the city, far away from the main clayton campus. Would all the 'good' lecturers be working at the main campus, hence the JD people would be left with the worse lecurers?

I really don't know, but last year I had to do some notetaking for a JD subject in the city, and the lecturer turned out to be my Torts A lecturer! So I'm guessing that happens a bit (i.e. Clayton lecturers running to and from the city to teach).

EDIT: just had a look at the academic staff, I recognise the majority of those names, so don't worry I'm pretty sure you're not getting an inferior version of the LLB

[tram]

A question more directed at ninwa:

Do you know if the course quality of the JD will be anyworse than the LLB? The JD is taught on the city, far away from the main clayton campus. Would all the 'good' lecturers be working at the main campus, hence the JD people would be left with the worse lecurers?

I really don't know, but last year I had to do some notetaking for a JD subject in the city, and the lecturer turned out to be my Torts A lecturer! So I'm guessing that happens a bit (i.e. Clayton lecturers running to and from the city to teach).

EDIT: just had a look at the academic staff, I recognise the majority of those names, so don't worry I'm pretty sure you're not getting an inferior version of the LLB

thxxxx

[Akirus]

So is there a Ph.D in law, or is LLM the highest academic law degree?

http://www.monash.edu.au/study/coursefinder/course/0069/

Which leads me to ask, why LLM instead of a Ph.D? Less time?

[ninwa]

Less expensive too I guess? And less soul-killing...

[tram]

Less expensive too I guess? And less soul-killing...

as opposed to normal law..... ^.~

[Glockmeister]

So is there a Ph.D in law, or is LLM the highest academic law degree?

http://www.monash.edu.au/study/coursefinder/course/0069/

Which leads me to ask, why LLM instead of a Ph.D? Less time?

Shorter thesis.

[AzureBlue]

Just wondering - does anyone know why Melb Uni scrapped undergraduate law (ie. LLB)?

[IntoTheNewWorld]

Just wondering - does anyone know why Melb Uni scrapped undergraduate law (ie. LLB)?

Because to the kids in year 12 deciding preferences J.D just sounds so much sexier after your name than LLB.

They also make more money this way =p

I blame the Melbourne Model. Sorry for stealing your quote again Jamison.

[Akirus]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I also noticed that the LLM (coursework rather than research degree) is more just for a specialization whereas a Ph.D in law would be geared more towards academia. There is also a research LLM that involves writing a 50000 word thesis, which I presume would be something of a lead-on into a Ph.D.