Scaling (yet again)

[|ll|lll|]

I still don't quite get it.

I think it's unfair that for example, in Methods (CAS), a 45 can be scaled up to 48 (increases by 3) while a 49 get scales up to 49.6 (increase 0.6 only).
And if you get mid-30s, the scaling can increase by up to 6.

[Hutchoo]

Drama boy?
Yeah, that stuff is quite weird >.> Don't get me started, I know 3-4 friends doing drama/arts and they get scaled down >.>

[tram]

lol....bell curve dude ..... ok, the scaling HAS to get smaller the higher you go.....it's meant to be as fair as it can be for the MAJORITY of ppl.... i mean we're talking about only two per cent when we're 45+ the point is, if you are getting that high, you don't need it. You can't say soemthing is unfair just because it dosen't benifit you.... by that same logic, for ppl that don't do massive scaling subjects, any scaling and especially scaling over 50 is supremely unfair.... lol, basically if youa re getting 45+, you don't need a huge markup anymore

(tbh, i'm pretty sure the situation is worse for ppl that do the scaled down subjects than for you bcs ur 49 only goes up to a 49.6)

Drama boy?
Yeah, that stuff is quite weird >.> Don't get me started, I know 3-4 friends doing drama/arts and they get scaled down >.>

lol.... pretty sure chery is saying the scaling isn't ENOUGH

[tram]

oh and i do realise the hyprocroy of me having a go at scaling given my subjects

[jimmy999]

oh and i do realise the hyprocroy of me having a go at scaling given my subjects

Okay use me as an example. 3 of my subjects have massive scaling whilst 1 of my top 4 scaled down. Yet chem and methods barely scaled. In fact if my spesh score didn't scale above 50, then my raw aggregate would be lower than my scaled aggregate. In actual fact my scaled aggregate is only about 0.5 higher than the raw.

In reality you should never consider scaling. You should aim as high as you can. For me a 45 in chem, meth, spesh wasn't that different to a 50 in those subjects yet I didn't consider that, all I considered was getting as high as possible. The higher your raw score, the more clear your skill in that subject. Scaling shows nothing about skill and intelligence, all it means is you competed against smart people.

[|ll|lll|]

if you are getting that high, you don't need it.

Every mark counts in the VCE That's what makes the difference between 99.85 and 99.90 I guess.

And nah, not the scaling is not enough. I predict that the scaling for methods is gonna decrease even more by the time I do Methods. (And spesh too)

Drama boy?
Yeah, that stuff is quite weird >.> Don't get me started, I know 3-4 friends doing drama/arts and they get scaled down >.>

Don't worry, if your friends get 50 for drama, they won't be scaled down. It's just like further and other subjects.

Okay use me as an example. 3 of my subjects have massive scaling whilst 1 of my top 4 scaled down. Yet chem and methods barely scaled. In fact if my spesh score didn't scale above 50, then my raw aggregate would be lower than my scaled aggregate. In actual fact my scaled aggregate is only about 0.5 higher than the raw.

So in other words, putting it this way, isn't it unfair for you for a person who've gotten: English (35), Chemistry (48), Methods (46), Specialist (49) to have the same ATAR and nearly the same aggregate as you?
And there is actually a difference in 50 for Methods and a 49. A 49 would meant that you have made mistakes and is not 100% accurate.

[AzureBlue]

And nah, not the scaling is not enough. I predict that the scaling for methods is gonna decrease even more by the time I do Methods. (And spesh too)

Yeah, the maths scaling has decreased a lot. I recall spech used to scale to 54 once upon a time. I guess I'll just have to work harder or something Now the only things that scale massive are languages. I wish did Latin. A bit late now...

[jimmy999]

And nah, not the scaling is not enough. I predict that the scaling for methods is gonna decrease even more by the time I do Methods. (And spesh too)

Yeah, the maths scaling has decreased a lot. I recall spech used to scale to 54 once upon a time. I guess I'll just have to work harder or something Now the only things that scale massive are languages. I wish did Latin. A bit late now...

Spesh scaling has gone down, methods scaling has actually gone up a little bit.

Okay use me as an example. 3 of my subjects have massive scaling whilst 1 of my top 4 scaled down. Yet chem and methods barely scaled. In fact if my spesh score didn't scale above 50, then my raw aggregate would be lower than my scaled aggregate. In actual fact my scaled aggregate is only about 0.5 higher than the raw.

So in other words, putting it this way, isn't it unfair for you for a person who've gotten: English (35), Chemistry (48), Methods (46), Specialist (49) to have the same ATAR and nearly the same aggregate as you?
And there is actually a difference in 50 for Methods and a 49. A 49 would meant that you have made mistakes and is not 100% accurate.

Firstly you don't need 100% to get a 50. Only 2 people get 100% in Spesh, yet 14 get a 50. It's a ranking, remember that. Yes there is a difference in terms of your raw ability, but in terms of aggregate, a 49 goes to 49.8. That's only 0.2 difference. 0.2 difference only matters for scores above roughly 99.8. For the other 99.8% of the cohort who gets below that, 0.2 sometimes won't change your enter score at all.
Also whether or not you understood it from my post, I didn't care about scaling. I did those subjects because I enjoyed them, I aimed for the highest raw scores, it was a bonus that they scaled, but in the end the scaling only balanced out my weakest subject. In all fairness I was actually 0.1 off from getting a 99.2, but either way I'm happy with the work I did and don't have any regrets in year 12

[brightsky]

And nah, not the scaling is not enough. I predict that the scaling for methods is gonna decrease even more by the time I do Methods. (And spesh too)

Yeah, the maths scaling has decreased a lot. I recall spech used to scale to 54 once upon a time. I guess I'll just have to work harder or something Now the only things that scale massive are languages. I wish did Latin. A bit late now...

Once upon a time, Spesh scaling used to go to 55.

[98.40_for_sure]

Are the exams getting easier is the reason for the decrease in scaling? I can't see any obvious change in difficulty...

[jimmy999]

Are the exams getting easier is the reason for the decrease in scaling? I can't see any obvious change in difficulty...

Scaling has NOTHING to do with the difficulty of a subject. Scaling is how well everyone does in OTHER subjects. Spesh is not an easy subject, therefore mostly intelligent people take spesh. These people usually average 37-40 in their other subjects. Therefore a 30 in spesh scales up to 37-40. Generally the less people in a subject, the higher the scaling. It's mainly why CAS methods always scaled higher than methods