Medical Research?

[vexx]

couldnt you go for another graduate degree if you didnt get into MD?

of course, but what's the point of that if you want med?
though, depends if there's something else you want to do, and you may be applying for med throughout that grad degree anyway, so instead of spending a year in honours potentially allowing research for the year after and which also can raise GPA, or working for the year to save up or travel then trying again, you are studying a degree you may not be happy with.
though, if i was to apply for MD and didn't get in anywhere in aus, i'd probably try for physio or begin honours.

[Russ]

Firstly, the pay isnt that high say for if you were to work for Melb Uni as a senior lecturer and researcher, you would probably get around 90k a year

How are you not happy with 90k a year?

[happyhappyland]

also, if you don't get into med, doing research is a good thing, i met a few people who missed out on med and did the same and they found they liked temporarily doing research and will apply later.
you don't alway want to jump into a career straight out of school and then never get a chance to experience something else (some do though) perhaps some variety will be good, you may find you love it more than you would ever love med and getting into med can be done later, you can have an amazing interview especially from all the life experience you've had, and having an honours behind you can be favourable too.
don't be put down by money, there's always ways to make it even it research!

If you researched into drugs and drug design you could earn alotttttt.
Anyway I believe Doctors are coming out too young anyway. If you are 17 and did the monash course you have your MBBS by 22. Finish GP specialisation and whatnot youll be 26-27. I wouldnt want someone that young treating me.

[Mulan]

also, if you don't get into med, doing research is a good thing, i met a few people who missed out on med and did the same and they found they liked temporarily doing research and will apply later.
you don't alway want to jump into a career straight out of school and then never get a chance to experience something else (some do though) perhaps some variety will be good, you may find you love it more than you would ever love med and getting into med can be done later, you can have an amazing interview especially from all the life experience you've had, and having an honours behind you can be favourable too.
don't be put down by money, there's always ways to make it even it research!

If you researched into drugs and drug design you could earn alotttttt.
Anyway I believe Doctors are coming out too young anyway. If you are 17 and did the monash course you have your MBBS by 22. Finish GP specialisation and whatnot youll be 26-27. I wouldnt want someone that young treating me.

i totally disagree on this matter. IT TAKES LIKE 10 YRS TO BE A DOC! (at UoM)
Doctors should be young. We need a bit of youth on the medical teams

[zhenzhenzhen]

Would you prefer to be operated on by the 40 year old doctor with greying hair, calm voice and the steady hands

or the young gun from UoM 27 years old

[shinny]

Would you prefer to be operated on by the 40 year old doctor with greying hair, calm voice and the steady hands

or the young gun from UoM 27 years old

That's not the question though. Since he's proposing doctors come out later, it should be whether you prefer the doctor who's 40 and has had 5 years experience because he came out of uni at 35, or the guy from UoM who's in his early 30s but also has had 5 years experience. I personally don't see a difference. If it's about the experience, who gives a crap about how old they are; how many years they've been a doctor is obviously the deciding factor and this isn't affected by what age they come out of uni at. If their actual maturity is what you're concerned about, then fair enough, although I would say most people by their 30s would definitely be mature enough...

[Russ]

Everybody would prefer to be operated on by the best, but it's necessary for less experienced doctors to perform surgery/care for patients in order to develop their skills.

This is ethical interview question #1

[AzureBlue]

Lol, yeah, fair enough - all experienced doctors were once upon a time inexperienced after all...

[Mulan]

Would you prefer to be operated on by the 40 year old doctor with greying hair, calm voice and the steady hands

or the young gun from UoM 27 years old

hahaahaaaaa.
at work experience most of the surgeons were around 27-30, and heaps of young residents all over the place with their old mentors hanging by.
at plastics they put the blue sheet over the patient and then the plastics surgeon (who was round 27) put it on like as if it was a nappy. wat an idiot... a hot idiot.

[zhenzhenzhen]

Would you prefer to be operated on by the 40 year old doctor with greying hair, calm voice and the steady hands

or the young gun from UoM 27 years old

That's not the question though. Since he's proposing doctors come out later...

Meh. If you actually read the posts in question, it was about doctors at 26-27 and stuff - lighten up a lil. might even notice a hint of humour in there somewhere

put it on like it was a nappy? what did you mean by that o.o

[Mulan]

Would you prefer to be operated on by the 40 year old doctor with greying hair, calm voice and the steady hands

or the young gun from UoM 27 years old

That's not the question though. Since he's proposing doctors come out later...

Meh. If you actually read the posts in question, it was about doctors at 26-27 and stuff - lighten up a lil. might even notice a hint of humour in there somewhere

put it on like it was a nappy? what did you mean by that o.o

i mean wat it looks like it means.
as in "hahaaa it looks like a nappy" way.
it was a leg operation thing so they had to cover up the rest and stuff.

[shinny]

Would you prefer to be operated on by the 40 year old doctor with greying hair, calm voice and the steady hands

or the young gun from UoM 27 years old

That's not the question though. Since he's proposing doctors come out later...

Meh. If you actually read the posts in question, it was about doctors at 26-27 and stuff - lighten up a lil. might even notice a hint of humour in there somewhere

put it on like it was a nappy? what did you mean by that o.o

I did read the posts - I'm just saying that everyone's taking the wrong perspective by only acknowledging age and not experience. I assume everyone's saying that they prefer an older doctor due to experience, but age is irrelevant because older doctors who leave med school later will have the same experience as those younger.  And I don't know why you seem to have taken offense at my post but it wasn't intended; I'm simply giving my perspective on the issue brought up by happyhappyland.

[Glockmeister]

Lol, yeah, fair enough - all experienced doctors were once upon a time inexperienced after all...

If you want to have a experienced doctor working on you, go through the private health system.

[shinny]

Lol, yeah, fair enough - all experienced doctors were once upon a time inexperienced after all...

If you want to have a experienced doctor working on you, go through the private health system.

Something I only found out recently: not all private hospitals are non-teaching. I've got the option of going to Cabrini next year which is a private hospital and they still teach and allow students to practise on their patients. But generally, yes.

[slothpomba]

Wow this has gotten off-topic.

Anyway since they're 27 doesn't necessarily mean they are a bad doctor. They could be a 27 year old medical genius or know their stuff better or have more passion than a 40 year old.