Can I Do Specialist Without GMA?

[BubbleWrapMan]

So hey, I'm in year 12 next year. I've already selected English, Music, Legal Studies, Philosophy and Methods. I'm now considering changing that to English, Music, and three maths (further, methods, specialist) because I like maths, and I think this would make things easier on me. I'm doing year 11 methods currently, recently got four consecutive A+s, and I'll be honest, I don't really try that hard. My methods teacher thinks I can get 45 raw for methods next year, which kind of makes me wonder whether I should play to my strengths and just do three maths.

So what I want to know firstly is, is spesh even possible without GMA? I'm willing to do the entire course during summer holidays just to give myself a chance. And I know it might seem strange that I'd rather do that than legal and philosophy, but that's just how my mind works. =P

[98.40_for_sure]

I don't know if this still applies, but it used to be 3 maths cannot be included in your top 4... so doing well in all 3 is a bad idea and you will be better off neglecting one of them.

And yeah, a guy in my spesh class didn't do GMA and he's doing better than a chunk of the class, so definitely possible.
If you really like maths, and you also want a sexy atar, do muep.

[tcg93]

I don't know if this still applies, but it used to be 3 maths cannot be included in your top 4... so doing well in all 3 is a bad idea and you will be better off neglecting one of them.

yeah its a rule for any type of group of subjects whether its maths, IT, history, etc

[_henwee]

I don't know if this still applies, but it used to be 3 maths cannot be included in your top 4... so doing well in all 3 is a bad idea and you will be better off neglecting one of them.

In addition, according to the VCAA Mathematics Study Design "In a given year, a student may not enrol in both Further Mathematics Units 3 and 4 and Specialist Mathematics Units 3 and 4."

And yes - you can do Specialist without GMA - you won't need it.

[BubbleWrapMan]

Err what? My friend is doing specialist and further in year 12 this year.

If any I will neglect Further, although my aim is to do well in all five subs.

[m@tty]

Many schools actually don't offer GMA. You'll be fine. But definitely have a look over the textbook.

In addition, according to the VCAA Mathematics Study Design "In a given year, a student may not enrol in both Further Mathematics Units 3 and 4 and Specialist Mathematics Units 3 and 4."

Ahhh, I've not heard that before. Also, I know people who ARE doing both this year...

If you really like maths, and you also want a sexy atar, do muep.

True.

[_henwee]

yeah - I just recently read that.
And found that weird too. =/
Meh.

[BubbleWrapMan]

Don't tell me that just came into effect in time for my year 12.

[_henwee]

Don't tell me that just came into effect in time for my year 12.

no... false alarm - my bad... I was reading the 2005 one...
They changed it. =]

Yes... that was very silly of me. =/

[BubbleWrapMan]

Ah ok, no worries.

I don't know what the general consensus here is so I'll ask -- how much harder is 3-4 methods than 1-2 methods? And how does spesh compare to methods? I've heard lots of different things from friends so I thought I'd ask here as well.

[Martoman]

yeah - I just recently read that.
And found that weird too. =/
Meh.

Yeah lol. I'm doing spesh/further.

However, if you haven't done GMA expect the school to whinge a LOT. The process I had to go through was ridiculous. Had to get permission from VCAA, like, a written consent.

Spesh == methods with a bit of venom.

Methods 3-4 very similar to 1-2 (*edit* from what i've read of the 1-2 text, i didn't do 1-2).

[m@tty]

Methods 3+4 is easier than 1+2. This is mainly because almost all of the new content was introduced in year 11, so year 12 is just an extension of that.

Spesh is a bit trickier than methods - the course is quite a lot broader, and the working is more intensive and hence easier to stuff up.

But, that being said, I wouldn't say that VCE maths is overly difficult.

[taiga]

Methods 3+4 is easier than 1+2.

One of the worst posts I've seen ever (L)

[98.40_for_sure]

I second matty, i found 3/4 methods easier than 1/2. Spesh however steps up a notch and you will inevitably encounter questions that will give you a headache.

[BubbleWrapMan]

Methods 3+4 is easier than 1+2.

Well, that's a new one. Haha.