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Getting a 50
« on: October 25, 2010, 08:24:07 pm »
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Curious here, in terms of getting a 50 in any of the following:

Physics
Lit
Chemistry
Methods
Specialist

Is it still possible to get a 50 if you haven't been the best student from years 7-10. I've been quite good this semester, I'm talking average of approx. 92% and if I really studied hard over the holidays and next year all the way through, assuming I am quite intelligent, would a 50 be possible?

I go to a shit school btw.

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Re: Getting a 50
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2010, 08:25:47 pm »
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Your marks in years 7-10 have nil effect on your ATAR. Only 3/4 subjects and VETs contribute to your ATAR. You'll do most of your 3/4 subjects in Year 12 and maybe one or two in Year 11.

It'll be tougher if you go to a shit school, but it's never impossible.

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Re: Getting a 50
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2010, 08:28:22 pm »
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If you suddenly switch on, then yes but getting a 50 is more of an exercise in a mechanical approach in most subjects

If you haven't done well in previous years, it'll be harder to deal with concepts because you've got a weaker base. But still possible.

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Re: Getting a 50
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2010, 08:31:16 pm »
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Curious here, in terms of getting a 50 in any of the following:

Physics
Lit
Chemistry
Methods
Specialist

Is it still possible to get a 50 if you haven't been the best student from years 7-10. I've been quite good this semester, I'm talking average of approx. 92% and if I really studied hard over the holidays and next year all the way through, assuming I am quite intelligent, would a 50 be possible?

I go to a shit school btw.
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Honestly, it's very hard to determine who becomes super-pro and who doesn't based on Y7-10 results. I knew nothing about Methods 3/4 before I did it, nor Physics and Chem 1/2.
2009
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~ Physics [50 --> 50]
~ Chem [43 --> 46.5]
~ English [46 --> 46.2]
~ UMEP Maths [5.0]

2010 ATAR: 99.90
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Re: Getting a 50
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2010, 08:33:03 pm »
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Curious here, in terms of getting a 50 in any of the following:

Physics
Lit
Chemistry
Methods
Specialist

Is it still possible to get a 50 if you haven't been the best student from years 7-10. I've been quite good this semester, I'm talking average of approx. 92% and if I really studied hard over the holidays and next year all the way through, assuming I am quite intelligent, would a 50 be possible?

I go to a shit school btw.
'

Honestly, it's very hard to determine who becomes super-pro and who doesn't based on Y7-10 results. I knew nothing about Methods 3/4 before I did it, nor Physics and Chem 1/2.

and now youre super-pro?

;)

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Re: Getting a 50
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2010, 08:44:12 pm »
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For chem I would think you need full marks this year for mid years and maybe drop 1 or still full marks for end of year with rank 1 sacs.

For methods its usually full marks for both exams and maybe spesh too im not 100% sure about that cos i dont do it.

My friend got 50 in lit and she wrote almost over 50 essays just for her exam revision almost 3-5 essays a day
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Re: Getting a 50
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2010, 08:49:14 pm »
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getting a 50 isn't that hard

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Re: Getting a 50
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2010, 08:51:25 pm »
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Re: Getting a 50
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2010, 08:55:49 pm »
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For any help it can provide:

Physics - depends on the difficulty of the exam, but in 2009 it essentially required full marks in both. Perhaps one lost mark would have been acceptable.
Chemistry - much more leeway for lost marks. However the 2009 Chemistry Midyear was considered pretty difficult by the cohort. Still, one would think losing 4-5 marks over both may be acceptable
Methods - unless there's a tough exam, one can probably only lose 1, maybe 2, marks in methods over both exams.
Specialist - last year the exams were considered fairly straightforward, with the tech active very calculator heavy. In that year 1-2 marks over both was enough to get a raw 50. For a scaled 50 one could likely have lost 5-6 marks over both. In a year with harder exams you could probably lose a bit more than that.

So you can judge your capability for yourself. But if you work hard and set your mind to it, then the courses generally aren't that heavy on content and the focus is perfection of technique and prevention of silly errors. If you can do that then 50 should be possible :)
See www.kbtlectures.com for free chemistry trial exams.

Planning to offer midyear and end-of-year lectures for Chemistry in 2011. 3 students with a collective 12 raw and 15 scaled 50s.

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Re: Getting a 50
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2010, 08:56:37 pm »
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For any help it can provide:

Physics - depends on the difficulty of the exam, but in 2009 it essentially required full marks in both. Perhaps one lost mark would have been acceptable.
Chemistry - much more leeway for lost marks. However the 2009 Chemistry Midyear was considered pretty difficult by the cohort. Still, one would think losing 4-5 marks over both may be acceptable
Methods - unless there's a tough exam, one can probably only lose 1, maybe 2, marks in methods over both exams.
Specialist - last year the exams were considered fairly straightforward, with the tech active very calculator heavy. In that year 1-2 marks over both was enough to get a raw 50. For a scaled 50 one could likely have lost 5-6 marks over both. In a year with harder exams you could probably lose a bit more than that.

Are you serious for Chem?  That is heaps!!!
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Re: Getting a 50
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2010, 08:58:33 pm »
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Um....sarcasm on your front? lolz

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Re: Getting a 50
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2010, 08:58:40 pm »
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For any help it can provide:

Physics - depends on the difficulty of the exam, but in 2009 it essentially required full marks in both. Perhaps one lost mark would have been acceptable.
Chemistry - much more leeway for lost marks. However the 2009 Chemistry Midyear was considered pretty difficult by the cohort. Still, one would think losing 4-5 marks over both may be acceptable
Methods - unless there's a tough exam, one can probably only lose 1, maybe 2, marks in methods over both exams.
Specialist - last year the exams were considered fairly straightforward, with the tech active very calculator heavy. In that year 1-2 marks over both was enough to get a raw 50. For a scaled 50 one could likely have lost 5-6 marks over both. In a year with harder exams you could probably lose a bit more than that.

Are you serious for Chem?  That is heaps!!!

Definitely serious. Maybe even more than 5 marks. It all depends on the difficulty of the exam. In some subjects you can lose a load of marks and still get a 50.
See www.kbtlectures.com for free chemistry trial exams.

Planning to offer midyear and end-of-year lectures for Chemistry in 2011. 3 students with a collective 12 raw and 15 scaled 50s.

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Re: Getting a 50
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2010, 09:00:27 pm »
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For any help it can provide:

Physics - depends on the difficulty of the exam, but in 2009 it essentially required full marks in both. Perhaps one lost mark would have been acceptable.
Chemistry - much more leeway for lost marks. However the 2009 Chemistry Midyear was considered pretty difficult by the cohort. Still, one would think losing 4-5 marks over both may be acceptable
Methods - unless there's a tough exam, one can probably only lose 1, maybe 2, marks in methods over both exams.
Specialist - last year the exams were considered fairly straightforward, with the tech active very calculator heavy. In that year 1-2 marks over both was enough to get a raw 50. For a scaled 50 one could likely have lost 5-6 marks over both. In a year with harder exams you could probably lose a bit more than that.

Are you serious for Chem?  That is heaps!!!

Definitely serious. Maybe even more than 5 marks. It all depends on the difficulty of the exam. In some subjects you can lose a load of marks and still get a 50.

So all is not lost on my 72.5/75 haha.  But seriously, stacks of people did better than me on that exam so I don't think I can get higher than 48.
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Re: Getting a 50
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2010, 09:00:44 pm »
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Russ I havent struggled. In fact it's the opposite I'd find it too easy and get bored with the work. But yes I'm trying really hard now and so far this semester every mark I've dropped is silly error not a problem in solving or understanding. But yes, learning the fundamentals took ages this semester but I've caught up well. It's just in Science and Math i thought elite students at private schools may have learnt the entire course even previously to Vce and their hard work in past years and Year 12 is just am unassailable lead of students like myself. Also, I do find  years 7-10 weren't a good indicator as Ive quickly caught up to my owns schools top students and surpassed most.

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Re: Getting a 50
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2010, 09:02:11 pm »
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#1 hint to getting a 50: Do business management :P
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