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« Reply #315 on: November 15, 2010, 09:35:55 pm »
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Yeah that'll be fine I would have thought. You analysed the effect of driving and restraining forces for change and used an example, that's what the question asked.

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« Reply #316 on: November 15, 2010, 09:38:08 pm »
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Yeah that'll be fine I would have thought. You analysed the effect of driving and restraining forces for change and used an example, that's what the question asked.
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« Reply #317 on: November 15, 2010, 09:40:53 pm »
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Yeah it's hard to tell, given it was worth 10 marks. We'll see!

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« Reply #318 on: November 15, 2010, 09:55:04 pm »
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Yeah that'll be fine I would have thought. You analysed the effect of driving and restraining forces for change and used an example, that's what the question asked.
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check my post a couple of pages ago, outlined (from an assessor) what is required for the 10 marker :)
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« Reply #319 on: November 15, 2010, 10:04:02 pm »
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could someone help me out with this....

for the last question, i wrote:
 -definition for org change
-General statement how change is affected by restraining/driving forces
- Defined driving force, and restraining forces
-Described and analysed 2 restraining and driving forces for change and restraining forces, in relation to Toyota, and mentioned its change issue of sustainability.

i wrote for this set of criteria, but i took well over 2 pages. IM concerned that others covered a lot more areas in this question and identfied more driving and restraining forcees, and wouldv'e wrote the same or less than me. I made sure to analyse specifically how the driving and restrainng forces acted as driving and restrainng forces respectfully, in relation to Toyota.
Was i wrong to go into that level of depth and possibly lose marks, or is what i did good enough to get me 10?
Cheers for any feedback

That would get you the 10 marks surely.

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« Reply #320 on: November 15, 2010, 10:18:19 pm »
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I doubt that the number of Driving/Restraining is really going to matter, as each LSO would have a different number...
As long as you show a solid understanding of why they are forces you should be fine (hopefully)
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« Reply #321 on: December 02, 2010, 03:10:39 pm »
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could someone help me out with this....

for the last question, i wrote:
 -definition for org change
-General statement how change is affected by restraining/driving forces
- Defined driving force, and restraining forces
-Described and analysed 2 restraining and driving forces for change and restraining forces, in relation to Toyota, and mentioned its change issue of sustainability.

i wrote for this set of criteria, but i took well over 2 pages. IM concerned that others covered a lot more areas in this question and identfied more driving and restraining forcees, and wouldv'e wrote the same or less than me. I made sure to analyse specifically how the driving and restrainng forces acted as driving and restrainng forces respectfully, in relation to Toyota.
Was i wrong to go into that level of depth and possibly lose marks, or is what i did good enough to get me 10?
Cheers for any feedback

That would get you the 10 marks surely.

I think only 7%-ish will get full marks

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« Reply #322 on: December 09, 2010, 05:03:10 pm »
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You Don't get penalised for extra, maybe for not enough detail.

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« Reply #323 on: December 09, 2010, 05:05:16 pm »
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You Don't get penalised for extra, maybe for not enough detail.
Well i wrote the full length page given, but i identified the full selection process and linked some to the case study given, but i wouldn't have written more than 2 sentences about each stage, most likely one.

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« Reply #324 on: December 09, 2010, 05:07:31 pm »
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Hmm. I'm not sure, it depends more on what you wrote in those two lines.

As it is, I'd forget about the exam. Monday are results so just relax.

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« Reply #325 on: December 09, 2010, 05:10:21 pm »
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Hmm. I'm not sure, it depends more on what you wrote in those two lines.

As it is, I'd forget about the exam. Monday are results so just relax.
Easy for you to say, you got 50 in the bag hahaha
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« Reply #326 on: December 09, 2010, 05:10:58 pm »
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Oh yeah for the selection process, you didnt need to have a beginning / middle / end process. You just needed to provide 3 or 2 ( with thorough explanation)  steps FROM ANYWHERE of the selection process, to obtain full marks.  Source: i peeked through a window when my teacher was marking bus man exams / and she told me today.
What has the chief assessor been drinking.. The question asks for the process so how is listing just 3 steps enough? If anything a response like that only deserves at most 3 marks out of the 5 possible. Weird :/

The question itself does not deserve to be on an exam (more of a SAC question) so I guess it was fair for them to be more lenient in marking this question.
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« Reply #327 on: December 09, 2010, 05:11:41 pm »
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well plus explanation of course lol
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« Reply #328 on: December 09, 2010, 05:17:11 pm »
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Oh yeah for the selection process, you didnt need to have a beginning / middle / end process. You just needed to provide 3 or 2 ( with thorough explanation)  steps FROM ANYWHERE of the selection process, to obtain full marks.  Source: i peeked through a window when my teacher was marking bus man exams / and she told me today.
What has the chief assessor been drinking.. The question asks for the process so how is listing just 3 steps enough? If anything a response like that only deserves at most 3 marks out of the 5 possible. Weird :/

The question itself does not deserve to be on an exam (more of a SAC question) so I guess it was fair for them to be more lenient in marking this question.
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This pretty much sums up why Biz man has been shitting me throughout the year.
Its pretty much a rote learning subject where our answers are right or wrong, but then it becomes subjective when marked, which leads to issues like this where you don't exactly know what is always required to get full marks. This area needs to be a bit more definitive.

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« Reply #329 on: December 09, 2010, 05:23:33 pm »
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Oh yeah for the selection process, you didnt need to have a beginning / middle / end process. You just needed to provide 3 or 2 ( with thorough explanation)  steps FROM ANYWHERE of the selection process, to obtain full marks.  Source: i peeked through a window when my teacher was marking bus man exams / and she told me today.
What has the chief assessor been drinking.. The question asks for the process so how is listing just 3 steps enough? If anything a response like that only deserves at most 3 marks out of the 5 possible. Weird :/

The question itself does not deserve to be on an exam (more of a SAC question) so I guess it was fair for them to be more lenient in marking this question.

Exactly. I don't recall the question asking for any 3 of the 5 stages. It asked to 'discuss the selection process that could be used', hence I can't see how talking about 3 of the stages is answering the question; surely the process isn't complete with only 3 stages. 5 marks would also indicate discussion of all 5 stages.