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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #225 on: July 09, 2011, 09:34:09 pm »
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, this only occurs if the graph is y=1, any dilation towards the y axis will not change this function so f(x/5)=1 =>
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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #226 on: July 09, 2011, 09:36:04 pm »
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, this only occurs if the graph is y=1, any dilation towards the y axis will not change this function so f(x/5)=1 =>
Whoops yeah f(x)=1, not 0  :-\
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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #227 on: July 09, 2011, 09:37:00 pm »
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Thanks guys, I think I get it now, I didn't realise that we had to kinda find the function.
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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #228 on: July 10, 2011, 04:41:28 pm »
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Ok guys another question from past exams, this time vcaa 2009 exam 2. Here is the question, it has a graph that is related.

Its question 1a.

The answer vcaa gave is confusing me. Did they give [9,infinity)? I thought it would be (9,infinity) since the graph is neither decreasing nor increasing at the point 0, found using the derivative. Below attached is what vcaa said. Can anyone help me here, because I'm kinda confused over this?

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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #229 on: July 10, 2011, 04:56:51 pm »
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Strictly decreasing includes the stationary point
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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #230 on: July 10, 2011, 04:58:58 pm »
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Ahh dam! Thats going in my notes then, is there any explanation behind it or are we just meant to know that?, because I don't think I have come across it in the textbook (essential) unless I missed it.

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« Reply #231 on: July 10, 2011, 05:07:59 pm »
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Not to go against you or anything xZero, but they say nothing whatsoever about it NOT being what b^3 said, which I imagine would've been a popular answer - I've certainly never heard of that either.

All of the errors are just the usually silly ones, but surely they'd highlight on something that important...
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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #232 on: July 10, 2011, 05:14:19 pm »
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Well considering 72% got it right, they probably did accept it then, thanks guys, but I'm still not giving myself that mark, have to remember it for future because I'f we get an easy exam like chem, they'll be looking for somewhere to take the marks off so. Anyway thanks again.
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« Reply #233 on: July 10, 2011, 05:34:48 pm »
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Not to go against you or anything xZero, but they say nothing whatsoever about it NOT being what b^3 said, which I imagine would've been a popular answer - I've certainly never heard of that either.

All of the errors are just the usually silly ones, but surely they'd highlight on something that important...
I always thought it should be (9,infinity) but VCAA disagrees, its one of those tricks VCAA throws at you so unless if you want to loss a mark because you think VCAA is wrong I would just go with it

Just want to mention that strictly decreasing/increasing includes stationary point but decreasing/increasing doesn't include
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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #234 on: July 10, 2011, 05:42:07 pm »
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Not to go against you or anything xZero, but they say nothing whatsoever about it NOT being what b^3 said, which I imagine would've been a popular answer - I've certainly never heard of that either.

All of the errors are just the usually silly ones, but surely they'd highlight on something that important...
I always thought it should be (9,infinity) but VCAA disagrees, its one of those tricks VCAA throws at you so unless if you want to loss a mark because you think VCAA is wrong I would just go with it

Just want to mention that strictly decreasing/increasing includes stationary point but decreasing/increasing doesn't include
Yeah fair enough, very good to remember though.
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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #235 on: July 10, 2011, 05:44:11 pm »
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Just while you guys are at it, is there any other silly/stupid things that you have come across like this that vcaa has thrown on exams over the last couple of years?
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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #236 on: July 10, 2011, 09:25:08 pm »
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Ok another question guys. Neap 2007 Exam 2 Q1ciii) The exam can be found here -> http://vce.atarnotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,19423.0.html

I cannot work out how the solutions get c=-1. They don't show any working for the question but using the other point of 3pi/2 instead of the pi/2, I still get c=1. Can anyone help?

I would have given you guys a print screen of the page but it's the last question in like a 8 multiple part question (now that I think about it if I tell you guys that I'm less likely to get some help aren't I?)
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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #237 on: July 10, 2011, 10:22:32 pm »
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Ok another question guys. Neap 2007 Exam 2 Q1ciii) The exam can be found here -> http://vce.atarnotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,19423.0.html

I cannot work out how the solutions get c=-1. They don't show any working for the question but using the other point of 3pi/2 instead of the pi/2, I still get c=1. Can anyone help?

I would have given you guys a print screen of the page but it's the last question in like a 8 multiple part question (now that I think about it if I tell you guys that I'm less likely to get some help aren't I?)
You're using the wrong points. [They are both where g(x)=f(x)]

Take a look at both graphs (and the points where f'(x)=0)), and consider what that final question is asking you. :)
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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #238 on: July 11, 2011, 12:17:53 am »
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I hate it when I do stupid things like that, thankyou gossamer.
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« Reply #239 on: July 12, 2011, 11:28:17 am »
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Integrate (2-z)(3z + 1),dz
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