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« on: May 26, 2008, 10:39:50 pm »
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Please help :D

How do I set it so I don't receive advertisements via PM please?

I do not have any of the options to receive forum announcements/notifications ticked so I'm a little confused as to why I'm currently receiving these msgs.

Anyways so how do I have it set so I don't receive this stuff please?

I'm pretty capable of reading the forum and homepage so I don't see the need to receive information 3 times, thanks!

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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2008, 10:44:43 pm »
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This was a special case. The cause was for a not-for-profit organisation, and I will endeavour to keep those announcements to a minimum. I was trying to reach the audience that did not frequent the site, more than anything else. The PM was for those to whom the e-mail would be sent to the spam box.

Thank you for your concern.

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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2008, 10:52:45 pm »
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Yes I understand who it was for, but thanks for that.

But how do I ensure I have it set so I don't receive advertisements please, or do I already have it set so i'm not suposed to?

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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2008, 10:54:58 pm »
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I should have made it clear. I overrode the option not to receive e-mail announcements for that specific e-mail.

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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2008, 10:57:57 pm »
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oh ok.

Not a threat, but do you realise there are legal implications of that?

Might want to remember that for the future... :)

Thanks though.

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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2008, 11:01:51 pm »
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LOl.... omg... just delete it. Thats what I did.

It's infrequent. Once in the last year...
If it happened rather frequently then their would be reasons to kick up a fuss.

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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2008, 11:04:31 pm »
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LOl.... omg... just delete it. Thats what I did.

It's infrequent. Once in the last year...
If it happened rather frequently then their would be reasons to kick up a fuss.

I will delete it, but I was just asking how to set it so I don't receive it so I don't have to delete it. I.E there is no point receiving and deleting msgs without reading them when there is the option to not receive them in the first place :)

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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2008, 11:17:58 pm »
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oh ok.

Not a threat, but do you realise there are legal implications of that?

Might want to remember that for the future... :)

Thanks though.

No legal implications. You surrendered your e-mail information to my service. I reserve the right to send e-mails to you at my discretion. You may terminate your membership at any point in time at which you wish to stop receiving e-mails. And to be honest, I wouldn't be sorry to see you go. :D

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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2008, 03:53:21 am »
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I am not a lawyer, and the comments below should be taken only as a statement of my opinion and not legal advice.

Actually, no such disclaimer was made during the sign up process (yes, I read it). It's probably arguable that marketing for the Thant Trophy doesn't fall under the primary purpose of us providing information to you...and without his consent (i.e., opting out), it's possible that there is a breach of the National Privacy Princples (Privacy Act 1988 (Cth)).

Hell, there isn't even a privacy policy on this website.

That said, the fact that VCENotes.com isn't an 'organisation' in the legal sense (?) could make that void, however. Mind you, it won't reflect on you well as one who is willing to give away other people's private information for your own private interests.

On the note of opt-ing out, be mindful of the Spam Act...it means that you are not allowed to send emails to users formerly of mailing lists who have opted out. Again, this only covers those of a 'commercial' nature (by definition of 'spam').

But, I think it's in your best interests to make it clear what you will use our private information for.

Personally, though, I don't mind receiving information that may be relevant to my interests. It's only one of the many hundred I receive daily about penis enlargement pills or some 'lonely Russian girl' who wants to marry me tomorrow...if I send $3000.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2008, 03:55:15 am by Excalibur »
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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2008, 09:14:01 am »
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Hehe, you raise a valid point in terms of "self-interest". The self-interest was in seeing a not-for-profit organization prosper. I believed that with the 1200-member reach that this site possesses that not using it would be a crime. I would never circumvent the opt-out for commercial gain, and I would certainly use it sparingly. That said, the privacy policy is something that's going to be drafted up during the holidays :P And, to avoid further confusion, I shall tack on the clause of sending announcements related to not-for-profit clauses into the privacy policy. I should note here that I will do it very sparingly as has already been evidenced (1 e-mail in 10 months).

EDIT: Also, re: "It won't on you well as one who is willing to give away other people's private information for your own private interests". I never gave away any private information. I sent the e-mail through a function that hides recipient identity from others. I even *wrote* that e-mail. Also, re: private interest, again, the interest was purely to see a great non-profit organization succeed. Nothing more, nothing less.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2008, 09:33:07 am by enwiabe »

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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2008, 10:55:58 am »
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oh ok.

Not a threat, but do you realise there are legal implications of that?

Might want to remember that for the future... :)

Thanks though.

No legal implications. You surrendered your e-mail information to my service. I reserve the right to send e-mails to you at my discretion. You may terminate your membership at any point in time at which you wish to stop receiving e-mails. And to be honest, I wouldn't be sorry to see you go. :D

Actually there are.

Basically if someone has chosen to 'opt-out' of receiving msgs there are legal implications to send them the 'spam' by overriding the option.
Also everyone has the right to 'opt out' of receiving the spam, i.e everyone has the right to contact you to be removed from the list and you have just explained that there is no choice to 'opt out' as you are already overriding the option to send people who have 'opted out' the spam.

I don't see why you are getting so defensive, this is valuable information (which you obviously don't know about). You should look into it before you get yourself into trouble rather than attacking the messenger.

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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2008, 11:42:37 am »
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Under normal circumstances, I'd agree with you (re: not shooting the messenger). But you are not a messenger. You are a perpetual whinger. You'll notice that Excalibur expressed his concerns and I addressed him in a respectful manner. This is because he has earnt my respect. (EDIT: I would afford that same respect to a first time member as well, as they have assumed respect until they do something to lose it, like you have). You've been caught lying by me a few times, not to mention your convenient editing and deletion of certain posts pertaining to your own duplicity. Also, please note that I reserve the right to bring back from the dead posts that you've deleted. And, finally, my server backs itself up every 6 hours and saves all copies. I *can* bring back edited posts. So let's not play coy.

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Hint, hint.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2008, 12:55:17 pm by enwiabe »

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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2008, 12:35:01 pm »
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That's fine. If you aren't willing to unsubscribe me- i.e. stop sending me msgs even though i've already chosen not to receive these msgs I can quite easily contact ACMA and get them to do it for me.

I actually bothered to do a nice thing and approach you first to discuss the matter and you aren't interested. You seem to be more interested in trying to attack me and discriminate against me because you don't agree with all my personal opinions in the past.

If you can't put your personal opinion aside and thus aren't interested in learning information that will benefit you and ultimately do the right thing in regards to sending out messages I will not bother to discuss this matter with you further and let ACMA do it.

And don't worry I have copies of the msg and this thread to pass on to them to prove you are violating the appropriate legislation so I don't need your server back-up. Thanks for offering though :)

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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2008, 12:53:22 pm »
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Haha, nice and vindictive. Ladies and gentlemen, if the site shuts down, we have this wonderful gal to thank :D

You weren't trying to be nice, you were trying to start your usual ruckus. You've done it on more than one account.

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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2008, 01:00:46 pm »
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Haha, nice and vindictive. Ladies and gentlemen, if the site shuts down, we have this wonderful gal to thank :D

You weren't trying to be nice, you were trying to start your usual ruckus. You've done it on more than one account.
Actually they would have you to thank as you are the one ignoring the legislation and then when told what you are doing isn't in line with it you choose to blatantly ignore it rather than saying "sorry I wasn't aware. In future I'll stick to that". You've made it quite clear you plan to continue to ignore the legislation and won't allow us to 'opt out' thus we will continue to receive spam, you've really left no option except letting ACMA ensure you stop...

An apology and a commitment to abide by the appropriate legislation in future would solve all this. Quite simple I thought?

i.e. the ball is in your court and everything is YOUR responsibility :)