werdna's essay-writing initiative - TIMETABLE on pg 1

[werdna]

So this is the final plan.
- a subforum called 'Essay Marking' will be created under the 'English' board
- each signed-up member will have their own thread
- this thread will contain ALL of their essays - language analysis, text responses AND context pieces
- I will be providing ALL the articles, topics and prompts at the start of every month until October 2011
- before posting up your essays and asking for help with your own work, you will need to help out others too!
- you will be required to critique AT LEAST 2/3 essays in the same subforum before you post up your essay/s
- the essay markers listed below will be marking essays, off their own accord, voluntarily and occasionally
- we will be helping out each other... we cannot rely on the help of the essay markers below alone, as we need to be able to correct our own work sufficiently
- any members who have overdue work will have a message inbox spammed with PMs from me

[werdna]

Too late to sign up?

Does this mean i have to do EVERY single essay btw? I'll try do most of them.

It's not too late. It is for your own good that you complete most, if not all, essays.

EDIT: You were the lucky last!!

[vea]

I'm really excited to see how this goes and all but because of my weakness in English, I don't think the "critique" that I give out to other essay writers will be any good and that it would not be fair on them... Maybe we need something to start us off or something? To teach us how to critique? :S

Don't really know where I'm going with this.

[shinny]

Given that you guys are marking your own work, why does there need to be a cap? The more people that are involved, the more markers there are. Or is it just because it would be too difficult in terms of administration for you to chase up 50 people? If so that's fair enough.

[funkyducky]

So Andrew, you're writing and marking?
I'd like to help out with marking, but having done Lit 1/2 and not English 1/2, I don't really have a good idea of the criteria...so I suppose maybe later in the year I could, but not now.

[m@tty]

EDIT: You were the lucky last!!

Umm, I think that you may need to speak to ninwa about that..

I think such arbitrary restrictions completely go against what this site was set up for

[nacho]

So this is the final plan.
- a subforum called 'Essay Marking' will be created under the 'English' board
- each signed-up member will have their own thread
- this thread will contain ALL of their essays - language analysis, text responses AND context pieces
- I will be providing ALL the articles, topics and prompts at the start of every month until October 2011
- before posting up your essays and asking for help with your own work, you will need to help out others too!
- you will be required to critique AT LEAST 2/3 essays in the same subforum before you post up your essay/s
- the essay markers listed below will be marking essays, off their own accord, voluntarily and occasionally
- we will be helping out each other... we cannot rely on the help of the essay markers below alone, as we need to be able to correct our own work sufficiently
- any members who have overdue work will have a message inbox spammed with PMs from me

Lol doesn't that mean that we can never start submitting our own as we have to mark someone elses first - who also cannot submit theirs as they have to mark someone elses...

[werdna]

I'm really excited to see how this goes and all but because of my weakness in English, I don't think the "critique" that I give out to other essay writers will be any good and that it would not be fair on them... Maybe we need something to start us off or something? To teach us how to critique? :S

Don't really know where I'm going with this.

I'm sure you'll do well. In English, it is crucial that you pick up some critique-ing skills.. so you can better improve your own writing. I guess you just need to compare the essay you are given with the assessment criteria.

You will just need to prove that you at least tried to help out someone else with their English work.

[Andiio]

So Andrew, you're writing and marking?
I'd like to help out with marking, but having done Lit 1/2 and not English 1/2, I don't really have a good idea of the criteria...so I suppose maybe later in the year I could, but not now.

Same, I'd love to be a marker as well, albeit further on during the yaer.

[lexitu]

I'm really excited to see how this goes and all but because of my weakness in English, I don't think the "critique" that I give out to other essay writers will be any good and that it would not be fair on them... Maybe we need something to start us off or something? To teach us how to critique? :S

Don't really know where I'm going with this.

The assessment criteria can be found here (warning: will download .doc file) - http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/vce/studies/english/englisheslhb08-11.doc.

Generally, you are marking across content, structure and expression. Then you just have to consider some specific things to each study area such as how well they have interacted with the topic etc.

[werdna]

Given that you guys are marking your own work, why does there need to be a cap? The more people that are involved, the more markers there are. Or is it just because it would be too difficult in terms of administration for you to chase up 50 people? If so that's fair enough.

The latter. Do any of the members want to join me and take care of overdue work and ensuring that members are helping each other out? If this is possible.. then sure, of course we could take up more members!

Lol doesn't that mean that we can never start submitting our own as we have to mark someone elses first - who also cannot submit theirs as they have to mark someone elses...

Hmm I think you've misunderstood this - everyone will have their own personal thread and there is bound to be essays ready to be marked.. I don't know how to explain this, I'm all confused now. Anyone else wanna explain this to nacho?

[shinny]

Nah, what he said makes sense. I thought of the same thing too but figured obviously starting off is an exception I guess just specify that that rule only applies to people who join later on in the year (that is if you expand the member cap if someone else wants to take care of the chasing up and whatnot).

[werdna]

So Andrew, you're writing and marking?
I'd like to help out with marking, but having done Lit 1/2 and not English 1/2, I don't really have a good idea of the criteria...so I suppose maybe later in the year I could, but not now.

Yes.. BUT everyone will be marking essays. I have decreased the reliance on the 'qualified markers' and increased the reliance on member collaboration.. before you ask for help with your essays, you'll need to help someone else with theirs.

[Andiio]

Given that you guys are marking your own work, why does there need to be a cap? The more people that are involved, the more markers there are. Or is it just because it would be too difficult in terms of administration for you to chase up 50 people? If so that's fair enough.

The latter. Do any of the members want to join me and take care of overdue work and ensuring that members are helping each other out? If this is possible.. then sure, of course we could take up more members!

Lol doesn't that mean that we can never start submitting our own as we have to mark someone elses first - who also cannot submit theirs as they have to mark someone elses...

Hmm I think you've misunderstood this - everyone will have their own personal thread and there is bound to be essays ready to be marked.. I don't know how to explain this, I'm all confused now. Anyone else wanna explain this to nacho?

LOL, I think he/she meant it as a joke, as in, because every 'student' must critique and 'mark' work first before submitting their own essay, then if every student has to 'mark' work first, then no one would ever have the chance to hand in an essay?

[werdna]

LOL, I think he/she meant it as a joke, as in, because every 'student' must critique and 'mark' work first before submitting their own essay, then if every student has to 'mark' work first, then no one would ever have the chance to hand in an essay?

Oh come on.. it wouldn't take THAT long to critique an essay?