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Absolute value graphs
« on: December 24, 2010, 05:06:05 pm »
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How much are they relevant to 3+4?

How much do we need to know?

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Re: Absolute value graphs
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2010, 05:07:22 pm »
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Very relevant.

Remember that you cant differentiate them at the cusp.
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Re: Absolute value graphs
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2010, 05:08:47 pm »
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pop up all da time :) best to get to know them
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Re: Absolute value graphs
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2010, 05:10:30 pm »
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Very relevant.

Remember that you cant differentiate them at the cusp.

Thanks

But does that mean we need to know about signum functions as well?

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Re: Absolute value graphs
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2010, 05:12:01 pm »
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it's just a definition, nothing to "know" about them besides the definition i guess, from memory they aren't in methods.
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Re: Absolute value graphs
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2010, 05:15:34 pm »
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One more question. In the form f(x) = a|bx-c| + d, what does the 'b' do to the graph (and how would I describe it in words)? I know 'd' and 'c' move it around (translate it I guess) and 'a' dilates it, but 'b'?

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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2010, 05:16:03 pm »
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b = dilation from the y axis
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Re: Absolute value graphs
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2010, 05:18:20 pm »
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I don't think you need to know transformations for modulusy graphs. In fact, I don't think you can really define a transformation for a mod graph really...
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Re: Absolute value graphs
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2010, 05:20:03 pm »
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b = dilation from the y axis

Okay, because y=|2x+4| would be y=|2(x+2)|

I think the moving 'endpoint' was confusing me a bit.

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Re: Absolute value graphs
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2010, 05:20:30 pm »
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One more question. In the form f(x) = a|bx-c| + d, what does the 'b' do to the graph (and how would I describe it in words)? I know 'd' and 'c' move it around (translate it I guess) and 'a' dilates it, but 'b'?
compare it yourself, derive from y = |x| and use mapping method, never memorise what the letters do.

the start should look like this

y'= a|bx'-c|+d

rearrange to (y'-d)/a=|bx'-c|

and now compare to y =|x|

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« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2010, 05:21:19 pm »
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One more question. In the form f(x) = a|bx-c| + d, what does the 'b' do to the graph (and how would I describe it in words)? I know 'd' and 'c' move it around (translate it I guess) and 'a' dilates it, but 'b'?
compare it yourself, derive from y = |x| and use mapping method, never memorise what the letters do.

Yep, try subbing P(1,1) and see what everything does. :)
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Re: Absolute value graphs
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2010, 05:22:02 pm »
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One more question. In the form f(x) = a|bx-c| + d, what does the 'b' do to the graph (and how would I describe it in words)? I know 'd' and 'c' move it around (translate it I guess) and 'a' dilates it, but 'b'?
compare it yourself, derive from y = |x| and use mapping method, never memorise what the letters do.

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haha i didn't meant subbing in numbers :P that's too primitive, just do it algebraically
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Re: Absolute value graphs
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2010, 10:09:08 pm »
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I don't think you need to know transformations for modulusy graphs. In fact, I don't think you can really define a transformation for a mod graph really...

transformation of mod function is clearly stated in vcaa study design

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« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2010, 10:19:00 pm »
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I don't think you need to know transformations for modulusy graphs. In fact, I don't think you can really define a transformation for a mod graph really...

transformation of mod function is clearly stated in vcaa study design

aww, what's the exact wording?

I've just never seen a question asking for transformations of a mod graph before, hence my statement.

I guess it doesent work the same way as it does in general for all other functions and relations though.
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Re: Absolute value graphs
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2010, 10:20:53 pm »
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I don't think you need to know transformations for modulusy graphs. In fact, I don't think you can really define a transformation for a mod graph really...

transformation of mod function is clearly stated in vcaa study design

aww, what's the exact wording?

I've just never seen a question asking for transformations of a mod graph before, hence my statement.

I guess it doesent work the same way as it does in general for all other functions and relations though.

for all functions and relations