Arts subject selection

[lexitu]

I'm quite sure that all Psychology subjects don't need to be classified as either Arts or Science - if you're doing Arts then they are all part of Arts. You can do two as part of your Breadth if you want to complete two majors. http://www.ba.unimelb.edu.au/about/course-structure.html - bottom few samples. With your third year the extra one will be done in Breadth (as a special exception) and obviously included as part of your Arts major.

Speaking of which, what second year Psych subjects are you thinking of choosing?

Double check to be sure that you can come out of Arts with one major only but I don't see any reason why you couldn't Sociology is also an option and ranks pretty highly amongst people I've spoken to as an interesting subject - and one that probably aligns with Psych.

I'm definitely considering a Linguistics major. I'm setting myself up for options in Psychology (which I'll almost definitely be doing), Linguistics and Philosophy. If the latter two aren't good, I'll probably just minor in them and then reclaim some Breadth for qualifying myself to teach Biology in schools and some Arts space so I can study a language.

[marr]

Thanks for clearing that up and that link was very helpful ! Looking at that I'm thinking of using two 2nd year Psych subjects as breadth so that I can save some breadth for 3rd year.

I thought we didn't get to choose Psych electives until 3rd year as we have to do 'Cognitive Psychology', 'Biological Psychology', 'Personality and Social Psychology' and 'Developmental Psychology' next year.

In terms of 3rd year though I'm not all that sure yet as depending on how much I enjoy the second year subjects will affect what I choose for 3rd year. Right now, if I had order them from most interested to least interested it would be:
 
The Psychopathology of everyday life
Advanced Personality & Social Psychology
Psychology of sleep and emotions
The unconscious mind
Organisational psychology
Developing persons in social worlds
Advanced studies of human cognition
Development of the thinking child
Neuroscience and the mind

There's a very thin line with the order of the 'middlish' subjects. Do you have any idea what you might be interested in yet?

I think you can. From the handbook it says "The Bachelor of Arts offers unique flexibility with the opportunity to focus on one or two majors or a major and a minor chosen from a broad range of Arts programs". I could always persue something as a minor anyway. Yeah I know quite a few people doing Psychology and Sociology. I read the description for sociology and it sounds a bit like Self and Other so I might consider that.

That sounds good! I've always wanted to do philosophy as well so I may check that out. Sounds like you've got everything planned out very well!

[lexitu]

Whoops, my bad, you're right, no electives in second year

My interests are similar to yours except for Psychopathology, but almost everything there seems awesome, it's going to be sooo hard to pick! Very thin line like you said. Will have to see what takes my fancy in second year.

Advanced Personality & Social Psychology
Psychology of sleep and emotions
The unconscious mind
Development of the thinking child
Advanced studies of human cognition
Organisational psychology
Developing persons in social worlds
Neuroscience and the mind
The Psychopathology of everyday life

Re the handbook, I guess you can only do one major and no minor. I re-read it and I suppose I overlooked that part. Good news for you

[simpak]

>: Why all the hate for neuroscience and the mind guise.

[marr]

I was wondering why you had psychopathology last and then I looked up what it was and it was nothing like what I expected it to be!  Looks like we might be in a few of each others classes in the future

>: Why all the hate for neuroscience and the mind guise.

I don't think it'll be all that popular with Arts kids

[Russ]

>: Why all the hate for neuroscience and the mind guise.

Stuff like this

[lexitu]

>: Why all the hate for neuroscience and the mind guise.

Stuff like this

* shivers from complexity overload * - precisely why. I'm quite a sciencey person but not sure if I'd cope with the extreme detail and blandness of it all.

I was wondering why you had psychopathology last and then I looked up what it was and it was nothing like what I expected it to be!  Looks like we might be in a few of each others classes in the future

Haha We're almost doing the same Arts course, especially if you go with Linguistics. Will see you round at Melbs

[schmalex]

Psychology is pretty much my main focus so I guess it doesn't matter too much what I decide to do with my other subjects as long as I can do well in them to get good enough grades for 4th year Psych. The subject Intercultural communication interests me however if I do choose to do the major, some of the later linguistic subjects don't seem all that great. Are you planning to do a linguistics major?

That's true. I've been contemplating just doing a psychology major and what other random subjects I would choose to fill in the gaps. The only problem I've found is finding 2nd year subjects that don't have 1st year subject pre-requiresites and are interesting.


Also, for the 3rd year psych elective subjects in which we are supposed to choose 2:

PSYC30017 Advanced Studies of Human Cognition
PSYC30016 Developing Persons in Social Worlds
PSYC30018 Neuroscience and the Mind
PSYC30012 The Unconscious Mind
PSYC30022 Advanced Personality & Social Psychology
PSYC30019 Development of the Thinking Child
PSYC30015 Organisational Psychology
PSYC30020 Psychology of Sleep and Emotions
PSYC30014 The Psychopathology of Everyday Life

Are these all considered arts subjects or are they science? What I'm really trying figure out is if I decide to do 3 of these subjects, will the extra one be counted as part of my arts degree or part of my breadth if it is considered a science subject.

ICU10001 Introduction to Cinema Studies (SEM 1)
SOCI10001 Understanding Society (SEM 1)
CICU10002 Culture, Media and Everyday Life (SEM 2)
HIST10008 The World That Made Us: 1945 to Today (SEM 1)
DEVT10001 The Developing World (SEM 1)
HPSC10001 From Plato to Einstein (SEM 2)
ASIA10001 Language and Power in Asian Societies (SEM 1)
PHIL10002 Philosophy: The Big Questions (SEM 1)

I'm doing The Developing World and it's my biggest regret. I thought from the description in the handbook that it was going to be case study focused. In reality it's a heap of theories that I think is pointless. Plus the tutorials are used for individual presentations on developing countries so there's no time for discussion or to clarify the lecture, which is horrible because the lectures aren't the easiest to listen to and understand.

I've heard that it's really dry and has heaps of readings each week. I'm really trying to go out of my way to avoid these subjects since I've been having a bad experience with Homer to Hollywood at the moment. I guess it's good to learn what field areas you are interested and not interested in early. What major are you planning to do, if you don't mind me asking?

I'm taking Developing World and everyone I talk to in it loves it. There are a lot of readings but they are all optional. They just want you to read SOMETHING depending on what you're interested in. Developing world covers a lot of different areas, including philosophy, anthropology, politics, history and economics (ish). I'm majoring in Economics and also interested in politics and anthropology and basically all of the disciplines I just listed and Developing World is my favourite subject. I was actually interested in a lot of the subjects you picked. I'm taking:

Intermediate Microeconomics
Quantitative Methods (statistics subject for economics major)
Intermediate Macroeconomics
Plato to Einstein
International Politics
Developing World

and then my IDFs are PPE and Self and Other, to give you an idea of the sorts of things I'm interested in.

[marr]

^ Are the intermediate economic subjects level 2 subjects? How are you finding them in comparison to 1st year economics subjects? It's good that you know what areas of study you like and you've picked subjects that suit that.

>: Why all the hate for neuroscience and the mind guise.

Stuff like this

That really scares me!

>: Why all the hate for neuroscience and the mind guise.

Stuff like this

* shivers from complexity overload * - precisely why. I'm quite a sciencey person but not sure if I'd cope with the extreme detail and blandness of it all.

I was wondering why you had psychopathology last and then I looked up what it was and it was nothing like what I expected it to be!  Looks like we might be in a few of each others classes in the future

Haha We're almost doing the same Arts course, especially if you go with Linguistics. Will see you round at Melbs

Pretty much! I just had a looked up what psycholinguistics is and that actually seems realyl interesting. Sigh .. it seems I can't make up my mind.

 

[lexitu]

Oooohhh Psycholinguistics sounds groovy, just read up on it

What subjects are you doing now again? You should be able to structure your course so you have the opportunity to go on to three possible majors in second year.

[schmalex]

^ Are the intermediate economic subjects level 2 subjects? How are you finding them in comparison to 1st year economics subjects? It's good that you know what areas of study you like and you've picked subjects that suit that.

>: Why all the hate for neuroscience and the mind guise.

Stuff like this

That really scares me!

>: Why all the hate for neuroscience and the mind guise.

Stuff like this

* shivers from complexity overload * - precisely why. I'm quite a sciencey person but not sure if I'd cope with the extreme detail and blandness of it all.

I was wondering why you had psychopathology last and then I looked up what it was and it was nothing like what I expected it to be!  Looks like we might be in a few of each others classes in the future

Haha We're almost doing the same Arts course, especially if you go with Linguistics. Will see you round at Melbs

Pretty much! I just had a looked up what psycholinguistics is and that actually seems realyl interesting. Sigh .. it seems I can't make up my mind.

 

Second year is a lot more dry, but it's quite interesting because it's a lot less general and you can go into things deeper. It's also quite a bit harder and involves more maths. It makes first year subjects look pretty easy, but it's good to have things staggered as well.

[Sah123]

Random question - Provided we have completed and passed a level one breadth subject in first semester, are we allowed to enrol into a level 2 breadth subject in second semester?

[Gloamglozer]

Random question - Provided we have completed and passed a level one breadth subject in first semester, are we allowed to enrol into a level 2 breadth subject in second semester?

Yes.  Just make sure that you fulfill the minimum breadth component of your degree some time and the breadth combinations won't matter at all.

[marr]

Oooohhh Psycholinguistics sounds groovy, just read up on it

What subjects are you doing now again? You should be able to structure your course so you have the opportunity to go on to three possible majors in second year.

Right now I'm doing: Mind, Brain & Behaviour 1, From Homer to Hollywood, Creative Writing: Ideas & Practice and Accounting Reports & Analysis for breadth. Originally I wanted to also persue a major in creative writing but I've decided not to now. I guess that means I only have the option of the possibility of going on with 2 majors for second year.


@sah123: What level 2 breadth are you considering?

[simpak]

>: Why all the hate for neuroscience and the mind guise.

Stuff like this

* shivers from complexity overload * - precisely why. I'm quite a sciencey person but not sure if I'd cope with the extreme detail and blandness of it all.

Pfft you guys are chicken!  I'm excited for it.