med or not?

[Bonifacio]

Whether or not hard work will specifically increase "intelligence" is moot, the point is that your DNA does not determine it from birth - there is no gene for intelligence.

I see, I still think that one cannot increase his/her intelligence through hard work. That was stupid of me to ignorantly say 'intelligence is in your DNA'.

[Shryuu]

Whether or not hard work will specifically increase "intelligence" is moot, the point is that your DNA does not determine it from birth - there is no gene for intelligence.

I see, I still think that one cannot increase his/her intelligence through hard work. That was stupid of me to ignorantly say 'intelligence is in your DNA'.

then we wish you the best of luck on your vce studies,
AS WELL as your umat.

[Russ]

Whether or not hard work will specifically increase "intelligence" is moot, the point is that your DNA does not determine it from birth - there is no gene for intelligence.

I see, I still think that one cannot increase his/her intelligence through hard work. That was stupid of me to ignorantly say 'intelligence is in your DNA'.

Hmmm, how are you defining "intelligence"?

[Cianyx]

The pseudo-intellect in this thread is fucking disgusting

[Bonifacio]

Intelligence is ability to problem solve.

[werdna]

Intelligence is ability to problem solve.

Oh get real.. and you're saying that it has to be in your genes to 'problem solve'?

If that's the case, I quit school.

[Bonifacio]

I clearly said earlier that it's not in your genes and that I made a mistake. Doing well in school doesn't require intelligence, it requires knowledge.

[Stroodle]

I think it must be a recessive trait, cause a lot of dumb parents seem to have pretty smart kids

[Andiio]

Formal definition of intelligence:
the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skill

Knowledge and skill are attained from hard work and learning; i.e. education, school and such.


Note that I'm not taking any sides, just saying what I think.

[werdna]

Formal definition of intelligence:
the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skill

Knowledge and skill are attained from hard work and learning; i.e. education, school and such.

Exactly.

[Russ]

the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skill

Knowledge and skill are attained from hard work and learning; i.e. education, school and such.

In that case hard work isn't affecting your ability to acquire those things, just affecting how much of them you have. I still disagree that intelligence is set from birth, there are plenty of environmental factors to consider.

[Bonifacio]

Formal definition of intelligence:
the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skill

Knowledge and skill are attained from hard work and learning; i.e. education, school and such.


Note that I'm not taking any sides, just saying what I think.

As it states, the ability to acquire knowledge...

Repeating this doesn't make you more intelligent. Intelligence is your ability to learn, not how much you actually do it.

Are you telling me that people in un-educated countries are all dumb?

I do believe that you can change your intelligence level slightly higher or lower depending on how much you use your brain, but you can't go from average to genius or anything.

[Cianyx]

To state whether intelligence is absolutely hereditary or environmental is pure retarded. Firstly, people would readily accept that there are biological predispositions to some physical features (height, looks, hair,) as well as some mental disorders, so why exclude intelligence? You would find a great sum of literature dealing with the hereditary of intelligence which explains it far better than I ever would. Look it at from this perspective. Intelligence can be likened to the baking of a pizza. One's natural abilities would be set as the base and the environmental factors act as the topping. One cannot exist without the other and the finished product is dependant on the quality of both ingredients.

[Stroodle]

I personally believe that it's nearly all due to environmental influences, and, in most cases, only partly due to biological makeup.

[Russ]

Well if you want evidence rather than belief here are a couple of sources I (cherry) picked from pubmed/supersearch

No gene has yet been conclusively linked to intelligence

Sternberg, Robert J., Elena L. Grigorenko, and Kenneth K. Kidd. "Intelligence, race, and genetics." The American Psychologist 60.1 (2005): 46+. Expanded Academic ASAP. Web. 19 Jan. 2011.

In the early 21st century, familial studies, including twin studies, supported the theory that genetic variations contribute to differences in cognition, but have been of little practical use to clinical and educational practitioners as no individual predictions can be made using such data; heritability cannot predict the impact of environmental factors or intervention programs.

Genetics and Cognition The Impact for Psychologists in Applied Settings, European psychologist [1016-9040] Carlier yr:2010 vol:15 iss:1 pg:49 -57