Alternative to Chem and Calc?

[bomb]

So is there anything similar to Chem 1 around with fewer pracs? I say this because I get crazy back pain and standing or sitting in one plce for 3 hour pracs will kill me!

Same with Calc, I actually want to do Linear Algebra but I didn't do Spesh, so are there any similar subjects?
I've checked the handbook and couldn't find anything, so I'm hoping I missed something..

Also, I don't get the whole stream business, how do you know if three lectures are part of the same stream?

[Gloamglozer]

With Linear Algebra, you have to Calc 1 first before going on to any sort of maths.  Unfortunately there's no other way around it unless if you have done Spesh in VCE.  Linear Algebra is pretty much a pure maths introductory subject to mainly introduce you to proofs and the type of maths that you wouldn't have done in VCE and itself is a pretty unique and interesting subject.

Usually lectures are in the same stream if they are taught by the same lecturer, at roughly the same times.  Basically you can see them in your timetable.  the easiest way to tell is if you put your cursor above a lecture stream and all the lectures in that stream should be highlighted.  This does not apply if a subject only has one stream.

Basically a "stream" is simply the same lecture taught at different times.

EDIT:  I should add that Chem 1 pracs aren't all about standing up/sitting down.  You'll have to stand, sit and walk around if need be.

You'll be surprised at how fast the 3 hours go - especially for the latter pracs where you are battling against time to write up your prac on time.

[rubiks]

Do the pracs always go for around 3 hours?

[Gloamglozer]

Do the pracs always go for around 3 hours?

Yes around.  If you think you've done your best, finished your prac, then you'll need to hand it up to your demonstrator and leave.  But the fastest time I've seen someone leave is 20 minutes before the 3 hours.  The pracs in Chem 1 are designed to go for 3 hours.

[rustic_metal]

In physics on the other hand, I never took more than an hour and a bit. Silly chem.

[Gloamglozer]

In physics on the other hand, I never took more than an hour and a bit. Silly chem.

Yeah, I've heard the same.  Physics seems to always be a contrast of Chem.

[Russ]

Physics was the best prac subject, had the most comfortable chairs and the best equipment! Best part was when we did the fluids prac and had to blow bubbles with the plastic tubing from several metres above the water haha

[qshyrn]

Physics was the best prac subject, had the most comfortable chairs and the best equipment! Best part was when we did the fluids prac and had to blow bubbles with the plastic tubing from several metres above the water haha

physics sounds fun. too bad ESD is required for engineering otherwise id scrap it for physics.

[rustic_metal]

You don't need to do ESD1, just ESD2.

[qshyrn]

You don't need to do ESD1, just ESD2.

but if i go into esd2 without doing 1, wont i be clueless?

[rustic_metal]

No. You'll be fine.

[qshyrn]

No. You'll be fine.

"ESD 2 builds directly on ESD 1" ,
according to http://www.eng.unimelb.edu.au/downloads/ESD%20flyer_engineering.pdf
ESD 1 after reading that esd1 looks quite fun as well so im leaning towards doing that, and maybe physics can come later on in the degree (science elective)

[rustic_metal]

Yeah well you're hardly going to get official uni documentation that ESD1 is completely useless, are you? Do it if you want, but anybody who's done it can tell you it's just memorising a dozen scenarios about how engineering projects failed, writing an essay on helping the world with your skills and a couple of very basic calculations.

[qshyrn]

Yeah well you're hardly going to get official uni documentation that ESD1 is completely useless, are you? Do it if you want, but anybody who's done it can tell you it's just memorising a dozen scenarios about how engineering projects failed, writing an essay on helping the world with your skills and a couple of very basic calculations.

oops looking at the handbook, chemical systems major only requires ESD1 (can someone confirm this though). so that makes my choice easy: physics semester1, ESD1 semester 2.
if esd1 is as u say it is, then its a shame to have to do something useless.

[rustic_metal]

LOL at transport processes having ESD1 as a prereq. I'd just do ESD2 and get an exemption, but probably safer to go with ESD1.