SPECIALIST DROPOUT?

[vitaminC]

hey i'm in year 12 this year and i'm thinking about droping out of specialist.

I do physics, methods, english language, chemistry (and specialist)

I find it hard to balance all my other subjects with specialist because i spend so much time on it.

Last year i was getting pretty shitty Cs and Ds so i guess it got me thinking what am i doing here?

Is it a good option to drop Specialist for Further?
And will Universities even look at my spesh study score or will they mainly look at methods?
Is it easier to get 40+ in further or in specialist?- considering scaling/effort/competition

Thoughts would be appreciated.

[Greatness]

IMO it's easier to get a 40 in spesh than further. Just stick with it, it will work out. My subject selection is also quite tough and to add to that i didnt do spesh 1/2 or the equivalent.

[iNerd]

IMO it's easier to get a 40 in spesh than further. Just stick with it, it will work out. My subject selection is also quite tough and to add to that i didnt do spesh 1/2 or the equivalent.

Ooo really? If you look at it logically his average of a C+ places him at the median which places you at a study score of 30...not 40.

Apparently Further is y10 mathematics...so shouldn't be too hard!

[vitaminC]

cheers for the thoughts.


my main question was Will Universities even look at my spesh study score or will they mainly look at methods?

[iNerd]

cheers for the thoughts.


my main question was Will Universities even look at my spesh study score or will they mainly look at methods?

Do universities even have the time to go through your VCE transcript? I'm pretty sure they just make sure you have the pre-requisites but don't quote me on this!

[xZero]

Some uni course requires spesh/or you can do advanced maths unit and skip the spesh equivalent unit, basically you'll be disadvantaged on the first day of uni. I suggest staying with spesh since its easier to get 40+ after scale in spesh than further

[Gloamglozer]

cheers for the thoughts.


my main question was Will Universities even look at my spesh study score or will they mainly look at methods?

If you don't have a study score for it, then they most likely won't look at it.  Basically they look at this:

1.  Pre-requisites - if you've fulfilled them, then you've got a chance to receive an offer.
2.  Clearly-In ATAR - if you get above it, and achieved number 1, then you're in the course.
3.  Other requirements - such as interviews, placement tests, folios only apply to some courses.

Note that 2 and 3 can be interchanged depending on the course.

[Greatness]

IMO it's easier to get a 40 in spesh than further. Just stick with it, it will work out. My subject selection is also quite tough and to add to that i didnt do spesh 1/2 or the equivalent.

Ooo really? If you look at it logically his average of a C+ places him at the median which places you at a study score of 30...not 40.

Apparently Further is y10 mathematics...so shouldn't be too hard!

Im referring to scaled to scores

[Zien]

No, the content in Further Maths isn't hard at all. However, there's a misconception that achieving a high mark in Further Maths is easy because of its relatively easily understandable concepts.

It's not easy to get a high mark in it especially if you think it's a subject that you can spend no time on so you can concentrate on other subjects. Every mistake you make in the exam gets punished severely, compounded by the fact that other people with well-rounded skills in Maths take Further Maths for the same reason as you. I know of a few friends of mine who were capable of doing Specialist Maths doing Further for that reason.

It's basically perfect attention to detail. Plus, you need a good work ethic so you don't slack off too much in Further due to the easy content. Specialist, I think, would help your Methods along as well as presenting interesting, new material to you.

[vitaminC]

cheers for the thoughts.


my main question was Will Universities even look at my spesh study score or will they mainly look at methods?

If you don't have a study score for it, then they most likely won't look at it.  Basically they look at this:

1.  Pre-requisites - if you've fulfilled them, then you've got a chance to receive an offer.
2.  Clearly-In ATAR - if you get above it, and achieved number 1, then you're in the course.
3.  Other requirements - such as interviews, placement tests, folios only apply to some courses.

Note that 2 and 3 can be interchanged depending on the course.

Thanks for the response.

will they also check the study score for each individual subject if your atar is not clearly-in for second round offers?

lets just say i want to do a BA of science/commerce- I need a 85 ATAR wth pre- reqs of at least 30 in english, 35 methods and or/spec, 35 in physics and or/ chem

at the end of the year i get a an 80 ATAR- not in CLEARLY-IN  zone. They go through my subjects and see i have a 35 in methods and see i have also done spec and got a 30. will this be an advantage? or will they not care? OR will they just choose the next highest ATARS?

also, does spesh cant brain bustingly hard in semester 2?

[Romperait]

IMO it's easier to get a 40 in spesh than further. Just stick with it, it will work out. My subject selection is also quite tough and to add to that i didnt do spesh 1/2 or the equivalent.

If you look at it logically his average of a C+ places him at the median which places you at a study score of 30...not 40.

If you look at it logically, a study score of 30 in specialist would be scaled to the same mark as that of a 40 in further.

[iNerd]

IMO it's easier to get a 40 in spesh than further. Just stick with it, it will work out. My subject selection is also quite tough and to add to that i didnt do spesh 1/2 or the equivalent.

If you look at it logically his average of a C+ places him at the median which places you at a study score of 30...not 40.

If you look at it logically, a study score of 30 in specialist would be scaled to the same mark as that of a 40 in further.

Uh I was talking RAW - not scaled -.-

[Water]

I'd choose specialist maths over further, because in further you don't gain any abilities/life skills by the end of the road. Besides, i got some friends doing further, and its just a "pain in the ass" despite its simplicity.

So, if you want the easy way out, further maths


You want something that can compliment your math methods, specialist is the way to go. Got some friends doing specialist, and though I don't do it, I actually learn some things from their work, by glancing at it and doing it with them, when they are in trouble. Math methods boy helping specialist *laughs*. Specialist will make you feel math methods is easier.

Hard work = Rewarded

[Romperait]

IMO it's easier to get a 40 in spesh than further. Just stick with it, it will work out. My subject selection is also quite tough and to add to that i didnt do spesh 1/2 or the equivalent.

If you look at it logically his average of a C+ places him at the median which places you at a study score of 30...not 40.

If you look at it logically, a study score of 30 in specialist would be scaled to the same mark as that of a 40 in further.

Uh I was talking RAW - not scaled -.-

And you honestly think that swarley was talking about a raw study score if he was saying that it's easier to get 40 in specialist than further? I know he's pro but that is a bit of a stretch.

[iNerd]

IMO it's easier to get a 40 in spesh than further. Just stick with it, it will work out. My subject selection is also quite tough and to add to that i didnt do spesh 1/2 or the equivalent.

If you look at it logically his average of a C+ places him at the median which places you at a study score of 30...not 40.

If you look at it logically, a study score of 30 in specialist would be scaled to the same mark as that of a 40 in further.

Uh I was talking RAW - not scaled -.-

And you honestly think that swarley was talking about a raw study score if he was saying that it's easier to get 40 in specialist than further? I know he's pro but that is a bit of a stretch.

We're in a forum of uber-nerds lol so yeah I assumed RAW. Meh - my bad.