Login

Search the forums now!

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

December 21, 2025, 06:46:12 pm
Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: Language Analysis Question  (Read 4431 times)  Share 

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Water

  • Victorian
  • Part of the furniture
  • *****
  • Posts: 1136
  • Respect: +116
Language Analysis Question
« on: February 19, 2011, 01:49:13 pm »
0
Just curious "wtf" is stakeholder and style in language analysis. We got taught this in class, and I was just , how are you meant to incorporate this into your essay without feeling cloggy. Isn't tone and style, similar. Stakeholder and audience, similar as well? Stakeholder seems too economic in my view.

Your opinion?


More interestingly enough, we never see this, in language analysis essays. So are schools just teaching something that will confuse students?
« Last Edit: February 19, 2011, 01:52:57 pm by Water »
Logged
About Philosophy

When I see a youth thus engaged,—the study appears to me to be in character, and becoming a man of liberal education, and him who neglects philosophy I regard as an inferior man, who will never aspire to anything great or noble. But if I see him continuing the study in later life, and not leaving off, I should like to beat him - Callicle

pi

  • Honorary Moderator
  • Great Wonder of ATAR Notes
  • *******
  • Posts: 14348
  • Doctor.
  • Respect: +2376
Re: Language Analysis Question
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2011, 01:51:33 pm »
0
From debating, a 'stakeholder' is someone who is directly affected by an issue, whilst an audience doesn't necessarily have to be affected (they might just be interested).

Style I think is similar to form, but I'm not sure.


I wouldn't use either in a LA.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2011, 01:59:07 pm by Rohitpi »
Logged

lexitu

  • Victorian
  • ATAR Notes Superstar
  • ******
  • Posts: 2147
  • When I grow up I'm going to Bovine University.
  • Respect: +66
Re: Language Analysis Question
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2011, 10:18:34 pm »
0
Style is the manner in which the author presents the piece. You're right, tone and style although style sort of describes the overall complexion of the piece (I think) whereas tone can shift. You don't have to overtly mention style - there is no exact formula in language analysis - but it might be possible to sneak it in within a short paragraph discussing tone+style or within say a comparative paragraph. Even perhaps when discussing an image - talk about how it might complement the style of the piece.

And yeah Rohitpl did a good job describing stakeholders and audience :)
Logged

lynt.br

  • Victorian
  • Forum Leader
  • ****
  • Posts: 652
  • Respect: +50
Re: Language Analysis Question
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2011, 10:25:42 am »
0
I would definitely discuss stakeholders in a language analysis because they would react differently to the article than ordinary readers. One of the things examiners like to look for in top essays is an acknowledgement that not every reader will react the same way to the article. Some people will be easily swayed while others may be difficult to budge. I think it is worth devoting a few sentences in your conclusion to discuss this and identify examples of different groups of people who would react differently to the article for one reason or another. Stakeholders are easy targets because they have a clear vested interest in the outcome of the issue.
Logged

flash36

  • Guest
Re: Language Analysis Question
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2011, 01:53:00 pm »
0
I wouldn't use the term stakeholder, but definitely you need to discuss the varying impact on different readers/members of the audience in terms of whether some readers may have no connection to the issue whilst others are significantly impacted upon by the author's view.
Logged

pi

  • Honorary Moderator
  • Great Wonder of ATAR Notes
  • *******
  • Posts: 14348
  • Doctor.
  • Respect: +2376
Re: Language Analysis Question
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2011, 02:17:40 pm »
0
Quote from: Rohitpi on February 19, 2011, 01:51:33 pm
I wouldn't use either in a LA.

Correction: I have a friend who used the term 'stakeholder' three times in his exam LA and got 20/20 (and a 50 in english overall). He told me that he also used it in his SACS (which all got full marks). So Water, its fine to use (and discuss) in essays.
Logged

Ghost!

  • Victorian
  • Forum Leader
  • ****
  • Posts: 948
  • Year 12, What up.
  • Respect: +42
Re: Language Analysis Question
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2011, 02:43:32 pm »
0
Quote from: Rohitpi on February 22, 2011, 02:17:40 pm
Quote from: Rohitpi on February 19, 2011, 01:51:33 pm
I wouldn't use either in a LA.

Correction: I have a friend who used the term 'stakeholder' three times in his exam LA and got 20/20 (and a 50 in english overall). He told me that he also used it in his SACS (which all got full marks). So Water, its fine to use (and discuss) in essays.

Yeah, agreed. I always address who the stakeholders are, shows more of an understanding of the issue.
Logged
2011 - English, English Language, Philosophy, Indonesian SL, Outdoor and Environmental Studies.

“We are all alone, born alone, die alone, we shall all someday look back on our lives and see that, in spite of our company, we were alone the whole way. I do not say lonely -- at least, not all the time -- but essentially, and finally, alone. This is what makes your self-respect so important, and I don't see how you can respect yourself if you must look in the hearts and minds of others for your happiness.”
― Hunter S. Thompson

pi

  • Honorary Moderator
  • Great Wonder of ATAR Notes
  • *******
  • Posts: 14348
  • Doctor.
  • Respect: +2376
Re: Language Analysis Question
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2011, 02:46:23 pm »
0
Quote from: Ghost! on February 22, 2011, 02:43:32 pm
Yeah, agreed. I always address who the stakeholders are, shows more of an understanding of the issue.

I used the term recently in a LA I had to give my teacher. Will report here on how he takes its usage

(haven't go it back because I was sick today :( )


EDIT: 21kth post!
« Last Edit: February 22, 2011, 02:53:09 pm by Rohitpi »
Logged

Ghost!

  • Victorian
  • Forum Leader
  • ****
  • Posts: 948
  • Year 12, What up.
  • Respect: +42
Re: Language Analysis Question
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2011, 02:51:22 pm »
0
Quote from: Rohitpi on February 22, 2011, 02:46:23 pm
Quote from: Ghost! on February 22, 2011, 02:43:32 pm
Yeah, agreed. I always address who the stakeholders are, shows more of an understanding of the issue.

I used the term recently in a LA I had to give my teacher. Will report here on how he takes its usage

(haven't go it back because I was sick today :( )

Keep us posted, and feel better soon! :)
Logged
2011 - English, English Language, Philosophy, Indonesian SL, Outdoor and Environmental Studies.

“We are all alone, born alone, die alone, we shall all someday look back on our lives and see that, in spite of our company, we were alone the whole way. I do not say lonely -- at least, not all the time -- but essentially, and finally, alone. This is what makes your self-respect so important, and I don't see how you can respect yourself if you must look in the hearts and minds of others for your happiness.”
― Hunter S. Thompson

pi

  • Honorary Moderator
  • Great Wonder of ATAR Notes
  • *******
  • Posts: 14348
  • Doctor.
  • Respect: +2376
Re: Language Analysis Question
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2011, 03:39:29 pm »
0
Quote from: Ghost! on February 22, 2011, 02:51:22 pm
Keep us posted, and feel better soon! :)

Thanks (for that last comment), I feel much better today :)

The teacher said it was actually a really good idea, as it showed that I could understand the differences between stakeholders and the target audience, hence making it a piece of 'superior standard' (in his words, although it was given an 'A' -its a practice).

SO I would say that using it is fine!
Logged

Water

  • Victorian
  • Part of the furniture
  • *****
  • Posts: 1136
  • Respect: +116
Re: Language Analysis Question
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2011, 04:14:58 pm »
0
What was the highest mark in class? He must be a harsh maker

My Class is a dud. Our contentions are two -three sentences long, and you sometimes hear people make a whole paragraph on it. 1/4 of Class time is dedicated to introduction,  and our tone ranges in a boundless spectrum.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2011, 04:21:53 pm by Water »
Logged
About Philosophy

When I see a youth thus engaged,—the study appears to me to be in character, and becoming a man of liberal education, and him who neglects philosophy I regard as an inferior man, who will never aspire to anything great or noble. But if I see him continuing the study in later life, and not leaving off, I should like to beat him - Callicle

pi

  • Honorary Moderator
  • Great Wonder of ATAR Notes
  • *******
  • Posts: 14348
  • Doctor.
  • Respect: +2376
Re: Language Analysis Question
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2011, 07:30:46 pm »
0
Quote from: Water on February 23, 2011, 04:14:58 pm
What was the highest mark in class? He must be a harsh maker

My Class is a dud. Our contentions are two -three sentences long, and you sometimes hear people make a whole paragraph on it. 1/4 of Class time is dedicated to introduction,  and our tone ranges in a boundless spectrum.

We had a couple of A+'s

Most were C-B, he's pretty harsh. But he also expects most of us to get 40+ :o
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up