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Oguz · « **on:** February 25, 2011, 12:17:44 am »

Hey guys I'm currently in year 12 and have planned to study Law for quite a while now. I was just wondering though...what is the most prestigious (or simply the best) way of pursuing studies in Law? I'm currently on the border between Melbourne and Monash and have received various opinions over the past few months. I'm really confused :\ is there anybody out there who has experience in this field or has any idea what I should do? I welcome all opinions. Thank you

ninwa · « **Reply #1 on:** February 25, 2011, 12:27:59 am »

If you get a high enough ENTER, go for Monash. If you choose the Melbourne Model, remember that you'll have to do the LSAT, and you risk not being able to get into law at all.

The LLB and the JD are pretty much exactly the same.
Prestige-wise, the two unis are also fundamentally equal.

Oguz · « **Reply #2 on:** February 25, 2011, 05:09:26 pm »

Thanks a lot!
Amongst my twelve preferences Monash Law is at the top anyway (obviously due to the ATAR requirements). Otherwise I'm going to have to stick with Melbourne. 98.55 is the clearly-in I think

werdna · « **Reply #3 on:** February 25, 2011, 05:14:37 pm »

I reckon you may as well go for a double degree - the clearly-in is lower for the doubles like Arts/Law or Commerce/Law.

onur369 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 25, 2011, 05:24:26 pm »

Oguz

onur369 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 25, 2011, 05:27:31 pm »

Na, Oguz is another member from my school. Top bloke and sounds like a professor when he starts reading

:D

kevvy · « **Reply #6 on:** February 25, 2011, 05:38:58 pm »

Quote from: werdna on February 25, 2011, 05:14:37 pm

I reckon you may as well go for a double degree - the clearly-in is lower for the doubles like Arts/Law or Commerce/Law.

yeah how come its like that? i woulda assumed double degrees have a higher atar clearly in.

Streaker · « **Reply #7 on:** February 25, 2011, 05:59:19 pm »

Quote from: kevvy on February 25, 2011, 05:38:58 pm

Quote from: werdna on February 25, 2011, 05:14:37 pm
I reckon you may as well go for a double degree - the clearly-in is lower for the doubles like Arts/Law or Commerce/Law.

yeah how come its like that? i woulda assumed double degrees have a higher atar clearly in.

Clearly-in scores depend on the demand for a particular course. E.g. a course with a higher demand will have a higher clearly-in ATAR and vice-versa.

Commerce/Law was something like 98.2 this year, whereas Arts/Law was 98.4 (I think)...and you can't get into law straight away at Melbourne, as someone said above.

schnappy · « **Reply #8 on:** March 02, 2011, 08:03:31 pm »

I recall reading the effective clearly in for Melbourne JD being 99.90 - It's not a VTAC thing, you still have to go through the Melbourne Model but if you get or above 99.90 you have a guaranteed place without the LSAT. You may want to check that though.

Duck · « **Reply #9 on:** March 02, 2011, 08:43:59 pm »

Quote from: schnappy on March 02, 2011, 08:03:31 pm

I recall reading the effective clearly in for Melbourne JD being 99.90 - It's not a VTAC thing, you still have to go through the Melbourne Model but if you get or above 99.90 you have a guaranteed place without the LSAT. You may want to check that though.

99.90 + 70 avg at uni = guaranteed csp place
99.00 + 70 avg at uni = guaranteed full fee place

Menang · « **Reply #10 on:** March 02, 2011, 08:59:13 pm »

Just a quick question about the JD.

Say, hypothetically, I got a 99.90 ATAR (hypothetically). Am I automatically eligible for a guaranteed CSP place or do I have to go through some sort of application to get the guarantee? I'm sure there are applications for it after you do the undergrad, but I'm wondering if there's something you need to do beforehand as well.

And say if I just had Arts at Melbourne Uni as my 1st preference, and I got a 99.90 ATAR, do I just do Arts and when the time comes for the JD I automatically get in?

Duck · « **Reply #11 on:** March 02, 2011, 09:36:44 pm »

Quote from: Menang on March 02, 2011, 08:59:13 pm

Just a quick question about the JD.

Say, hypothetically, I got a 99.90 ATAR (hypothetically). Am I automatically eligible for a guaranteed CSP place or do I have to go through some sort of application to get the guarantee? I'm sure there are applications for it after you do the undergrad, but I'm wondering if there's something you need to do beforehand as well.

And say if I just had Arts at Melbourne Uni as my 1st preference, and I got a 99.90 ATAR, do I just do Arts and when the time comes for the JD I automatically get in?

yes it's automatic but read above as to 70+ avg required

saaaaaam · « **Reply #12 on:** March 02, 2011, 11:07:59 pm »

Quote from: Duck on March 02, 2011, 09:36:44 pm

Quote from: Menang on March 02, 2011, 08:59:13 pm
Just a quick question about the JD.

Say, hypothetically, I got a 99.90 ATAR (hypothetically). Am I automatically eligible for a guaranteed CSP place or do I have to go through some sort of application to get the guarantee? I'm sure there are applications for it after you do the undergrad, but I'm wondering if there's something you need to do beforehand as well.

And say if I just had Arts at Melbourne Uni as my 1st preference, and I got a 99.90 ATAR, do I just do Arts and when the time comes for the JD I automatically get in?
yes it's automatic but read above as to 70+ avg required

It's a bit more than 70, it's 75.

This is from their website:

Quote

Commence/will commence an undergraduate course at the University of Melbourne and complete the undergraduate course with a H2A (75%) grade weighted average.

LOVEPHYSICS · « **Reply #13 on:** March 05, 2011, 08:13:57 pm »

Melb Law beats Monash Law hands down. In terms of practicality, they isn't much of a difference, both top and medium tier have Monash/Melb students. For accessibility, Monash law is way more realistic and also a lot safer, it whoops Melb's LSAT/postgraduate approach.

But if you are thinking of going internationally to practice law, perhaps Melb JD is more favorable. Its a lot more recognized outside Australia and it carries that prestige Monash doesn't seem to have internationally. From what I know, the country I originally came from leans more towards the UK graduates. Thus, graduating with a Monash Law is perhaps not in my best interest, given that it does not carry the fame and recognition, lets say, Melbourne has.

Liuy · « **Reply #14 on:** March 05, 2011, 08:44:15 pm »

^+1.

Well said, even though people say the LLB and JD are basically the same, internationally Melbourne JD is just simply more recognized and prestigious than Monash's law programs.

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