How hard is it to get 40+???

[zibb3r]

OK guys. In all honesty id like to get a 45 in Jap. but my teacher said last year the highest was raw 33.  She said its really hard to get 30+, so now im really freaked out.  What should I be aiming to get so i get 40+???

[Tobias Funke]

A+'s

It's incredibly difficult to get 40+ in any subject, let alone a language, and let alone a language like Japanese.

[IntoTheNewWorld]

but my teacher said last year the highest was raw 33.

I presume your cohort is small though, so that shouldn't matter tooooo much. It probably (hopefully) changes drastically every year

She said its really hard to get 30+, so now im really freaked out.

She's wronggggg. Anyone can get 30 if they try hard enough (edit: not very hard at all). If your cohort isn't so strong, just try to do a lot of work outside of class then you'll be fine. 40+ is definitely a realistic goal, no matter what others say. Going from 40 to 45+ is more stuff like doing proper prep for detailed study and doing lots of practice exams in my opinion. From 45 up it's just luck lolz.

[Greatness]

My teacher reckons that most of my class (10 students) should get at least a 30, she says we have a moderate to strong cohort. Just try your best imo, you say that you're aiming for a 45. To me that sounds like you're a pretty dedicated student so it's entirely possible but it will be tough. How do you rate your cohort?

[zibb3r]

We have 2 kids in our cohort who lived in Japan for 7 years!!!!  So does this reduce my chances???  We have 8 in our class total.  Without the 2 kids who lived in Japan Im number 1 ranked.  And I used to be top in school, recieving certificates and everything until they moved to Australia.  How does this affect me???

[Greatness]

We have 2 kids in our cohort who lived in Japan for 7 years!!!!  So does this reduce my chances???  We have 8 in our class total.  Without the 2 kids who lived in Japan Im number 1 ranked.  And I used to be top in school, recieving certificates and everything until they moved to Australia.  How does this affect me???

LOL yeah similar situation, i use to be top of the cohort until a chinese girl moved here and is dominating cos she did a lot of it in china or whereever. I wouldnt say that it would reduce you chances, as they are more likely to do well in the exams. Just make sure you do good as well.

[IntoTheNewWorld]

We have 2 kids in our cohort who lived in Japan for 7 years!!!!  So does this reduce my chances???  We have 8 in our class total.  Without the 2 kids who lived in Japan Im number 1 ranked.  And I used to be top in school, recieving certificates and everything until they moved to Australia.  How does this affect me???

wtf as if they can still do Japanese SL that's just wronggg /rant.

hm if you and those two both get close to full marks on SACs though it should still be finee.

[Darren]

It's because for languages, the median is about B+ since specifically language-competent kids do it.. like the median for chinese isn't C+ = 30 , more like B+ = 30 since a horde of proficient speaking asians do it and ace it easily

[IntoTheNewWorld]

It's because for languages, the median is about B+ since specifically language-competent kids do it.. like the median for chinese isn't C+ = 30 , more like B+ = 30 since a horde of proficient speaking asians do it and ace it easily

But Jap grade cut offs are like, incredibly low. From memory B+ was like, less than 50% on the exam.

Conclusion: VCE is retarded.

[spaciiey]

i got straight a's and top rank in a weak cohort (i'm not kidding -- the rest of them got 25-32), which gave me a 38. i was pretty lazy during jap last year, though, and poured all my effort into english instead. =.=

i reckon you need straight a plusses and near top ranking or top ranking, depending on how big and how strong your cohort is. (mine was tiny and it was weak cause the others didnt really care so much about jap). for the record -- in the year before mine, their highest score was only 32. so dont get your hopes all dashed now -- its still early days. =)

[Greatness]

Wow 50%~ on exam would yield a B+!!! Pretty good assurance right there BUt then again jap exams are probs hard...

[IntoTheNewWorld]

hm ok maybe my perception of study scores is completely out of whack because my cohort was excessively hardcore.

Good luck though~

[mykey]

Apparently if you get 35 raw in Japanese, you have done really really well!
But if you want to get in the 40s, then its certainly possible. Just be prepared to work super hard!

[iamtom]

A friend of mine speaks Japanese at home, and did Japanese SL last year - he only got like, 44 or 45 raw.

[EvangelionZeta]

Doing well in a language isn't just based on competency - like any other subject, even the best kids can get mid-low 40s scores due to stupid errors and so forth.  Take advantage of this fact if you want to do well - don't make silly mistakes, and as long as you're reasonably competent, you can get in the higher marks range!