Post limit?

[taiga]

That said, just because they may not be academically able to offer advice, they can still partake in discussion?

I also personally believe that asking questions to an extent is also a method of contributing to the community. Whilst there are some people that ask questions and nothing else, they are effectively providing other students with practice in both that specific subject, and I think it is also cool to know that your explanations can actually be interpreted by others.

[iNerd]

This is perhaps the first time I've seen a split-view/debate on a suggestion - quite fascinating!

I agree with you. I often read other people's Qs and learn off it.

Anyways if it were to be implemented posts would be better because as vea said respect is quite hard to gain - even he hasn't got +5.

[andy456]

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Hmm I guess. Never thought about it that way.

However I stand by the word 'deserve'.

These exams that are downloaded are meant to be bought - companies charge.

By contributing you are effectively "paying" for the exam whereas leechers get it for "free".

Do you get what I mean? :S

I can understand where your coming and I can see validity in your point of contributing to get something. But just to clarify I hardly think contributing is 'paying' for a resource and fail to see how you can justify it as being a valid 'payment'.

That said, just because they may not be academically able to offer advice, they can still partake in discussion?

I also personally believe that asking questions to an extent is also a method of contributing to the community. Whilst there are some people that ask questions and nothing else, they are effectively providing other students with practice in both that specific subject, and I think it is also cool to know that your explanations can actually be interpreted by others.

Good point and I agree; however 'forcing' someone to partake in a discussion or ask a question isn't reasonable (for lack of a better word). I don't think its the direction AN should be taking at the moment

[iamtom]

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Hmm I guess. Never thought about it that way.

However I stand by the word 'deserve'.

These exams that are downloaded are meant to be bought - companies charge.

By contributing you are effectively "paying" for the exam whereas leechers get it for "free".

Do you get what I mean? :S

I feel you should stop being so elitist... if you feel this way, mayhaps you should not utilise the resources yourself. I don't think you should eliminate people from using resources people have paid for just because they don't have 50 posts. 50 posts isn't exactly an easy thing to obtain in a quick and timely manner, and I know several people who come here just before exams to get exams and any other advice because they google'd "_____ practice exams" or "______ subject advice"

[iNerd]

"I don't think you should eliminate people from using resources people have paid for..."

Whose paid what? :S

I lost you...

But I fail to see how that is elitist. I contribute to this site and everyone else who does deserves some resources...it would be totally wrong and hypocritical of me to mention this suggestion if I had 1 post.

[Water]

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Hmm I guess. Never thought about it that way.

However I stand by the word 'deserve'.

These exams that are downloaded are meant to be bought - companies charge.

By contributing you are effectively "paying" for the exam whereas leechers get it for "free".

Do you get what I mean? :S

I feel you should stop being so elitist... if you feel this way, mayhaps you should not utilise the resources yourself. I don't think you should eliminate people from using resources people have paid for just because they don't have 50 posts. 50 posts isn't exactly an easy thing to obtain in a quick and timely manner, and I know several people who come here just before exams to get exams and any other advice because they google'd "_____ practice exams" or "______ subject advice"

We should promote lurking in forums. Best way to promote community cohesion.

[jasoN-]

The resources are paid for by someone else
then it was shared on the internet
now everyone can get it for free

there is no justice in saying 'you helped to 'pay' for the exams by contributing with posts'
effectively you got them for free


once again, if its already downloadable for free, everyone should have it!

[andy456]

"I don't think you should eliminate people from using resources people have paid for..."

Whose paid what? :S

I lost you...

But I fail to see how that is elitist. I contribute to this site and everyone else who does deserves some resources...it would be totally wrong and hypocritical of me to mention this suggestion if I had 1 post.

I don't think this is the issue causing discussion though. The issue is your saying those that don't have 50 posts or +5 respect shouldn't have access to resources made available on this site.

[iamtom]

Who's to say people who don't contribute to the site do not deserve the resources? There's a reason you need to sign up to the website to access the Notes (or you did, when I signed up.)

As for losing me, you contended these exams were meant to be bouhgt; someone HAD bought them and distributed them.

You can fail to see how it is elitist, however, that's basically what you're doing; you're categorising people into people who post (and thus, deserve content) and those who do not/lurk/aren't members (and thus, do not deserve content). But that's not the issue I'm griping at.

I've been a member since last year. I've only recently started posting; before that, I tended to lurk - I checked the forums every day, but did not feel the need to post. Before I started posting, you are saying I should not have access to the content, which was most definitely useful.

Thanks.

[iNerd]

As for losing me, you contended these exams were meant to be bouhgt; someone HAD bought them and distributed them.

That is incorrect. Schools buy it and place it on their portals. Then students from that school post it on VN.

The students outside of the school who bought it are getting it free and hence the company loses out either way.

My point was that those who contribute can at least know they deserve the resource as they have helped out the community. Those who leech it don't help anyone and are only looking to benefit themselves...

Basically to get you must give. It's a simple principle really - if you want a birthday present from a friend you also have to give that same friend a birthday present (on their birthday).

[iamtom]

And? What's the problem with that? That's the POINT of the resources. You're helping yourself, with the exams, the notes... it's when you post asking for help on a question that you're not.

[binders]

is the copyright of the practice exams such that students are allowed to distribute them freely?

[iNerd]

And? What's the problem with that? That's the POINT of the resources. You're helping yourself, with the exams, the notes... it's when you post asking for help on a question that you're not.

Basically to get you must give. It's a simple principle really - if you want a birthday present from a friend you also have to give that same friend a birthday present (on their birthday).

It's as andy456 said:

"I can understand where your coming and I can see validity in your point of contributing to get something"

You seem to take a very hostile approach. I'm merely throwing up a suggestion, tone it down.

[andy456]

ATAR I don't think your looking at it from our perspective.  Not all schools buy exams for their students. My school didn't. If I hadn't of found VN theres no way I would have done as well as I did in my VCE. But I guess it doesn't matter because I contribute.
Damn those kids without resources I mean we need them to do poorly to boost our scores right? Let's tighten the rules so they can stay down the bottom. (This is sarcasm for those of you playing at home)

LOL at all the people watching this board waiting for it to turn into a war.... 

ATAR this is a very sensitive issue in case you haven't realised. It involves the distinction between those with resources and those without. Of course there are going to be people adamently defending their points of view.

[iNerd]

Hmm fair enough I guess.

But once again those without resources can easily get them - by contributing.

Meh this is going in circles - I'm out for the night.