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Need an answer please! (determining a circular funk rule)
« on: April 16, 2011, 06:38:07 pm »
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A function with rule y = A sin (nt + ε) has the following properties:
range = [−2, 2]
period = 6
when t = 1, y = 1.
Find values for A, n and ε.


they dont give u a domain (like x E [-2pi,2pi]), so how do u know if ε is negative?? (the answer's -pi/6, i get pi/6, theres infinite answers..)

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Re: Need an answer please! (determining a circular funk rule)
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2011, 06:49:06 pm »
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From The Range , we know that A = 2     straight away. Lets call it deviation, because I forgot whats the proper term for it.


Period = 6             2pie / n = 6      

                           2 pie = 6n

                           2pie / 6  = n

Then  For Mysterious Number.


1 = 2 sin (pie/3 + x)

1/2 = sin (pie/3 + x)

pie/ 6 =  pie /3 + x

x = pie/6 - pie /3
   = -pie / 6



The word for A is something, but I forgot what A is called, apologies, I haven't touched this topic for like ages...

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Re: Need an answer please! (determining a circular funk rule)
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2011, 06:49:30 pm »
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Amplitude or dilation? Only guessing.

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Re: Need an answer please! (determining a circular funk rule)
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2011, 06:50:50 pm »
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Amplitude, thats the one. Lol :) , Good Job >;D
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Re: Need an answer please! (determining a circular funk rule)
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2011, 06:53:07 pm »
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Isn't that vital to sketching or something? - and you forgot? classic Water ::) :P

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Re: Need an answer please! (determining a circular funk rule)
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2011, 06:53:16 pm »
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The peak-to-peak value is 4. Therefore, the amplitude is 2. i.e. A = 2

The period is 6. Therefore n =





At t = 1, y = 1





OR where

OR   where

Therefore, you are correct - there are infinite answers. However, when subbing integer values of k, you can figure out that is not a correct answer. is one possible answer.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2011, 06:59:02 pm by luffy »

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Re: Need an answer please! (determining a circular funk rule)
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2011, 06:59:51 pm »
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w8 lol...u got real ahead of me now, idk what this step is:


\frac{\pi}{3} + \varepsilon = 2k\pi + \frac{\pi}{6} OR \frac{\pi}{3} + \varepsilon = (2k+1)\pi - \frac{\pi}{6} where k\epsilon \mathbb{Z}

\varepsilon  = 2k\pi - \frac{\pi}{6} OR   \varepsilon = (2k+1)\pi - \frac{\pi}{2} where k\epsilon \mathbb{Z}

the other values i know the jist of, but can u go over, as if explaining to a dumby, these steps again plz?
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Re: Need an answer please! (determining a circular funk rule)
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2011, 07:00:46 pm »
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crap....those steps are the last two on luffys post..
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Re: Need an answer please! (determining a circular funk rule)
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2011, 07:03:59 pm »
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Luffy, simply just made a general equation for the K, as you integrate 2pie with n as (Any amount of rotations) , it returns to the same value. Not sure if you've been taught this, but it will be taught in the math methods syllabus 3/4
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Re: Need an answer please! (determining a circular funk rule)
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2011, 07:11:27 pm »
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okay....so what u have done is gotten rid of the sin from




therefore making 1/2 = to its "unit circle" value of pie/6 (1st or second quadrants)....
so what im trying to get u to say, is that i saw sin (pie/3 + x)=+1/2, therefore, thought that the values r in 1st n 2nd quads equaling positive pie/6 and pie+pie/6.....

am i explaining myself properly??
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