What should be offered as a VCE subject but isnt?

[costargh]

is that good or bad? lol

Someone else can explain it, in regards to study scores and the median. Me no good @ math let alone explaining math lol

[melaniej]

hahaha well. i know that like on average about 1/8 people get above 90 i think...
and with the mean study scores and whatever, most people do there more difficult subjects.
we have i think 0.5% of all the specialist maths students in the state!

and wow this is heaps off topic
just leave it at my school is awesome:)

[brendan]

Financial Markets, Finance in general and a Fin Math

All that can be rolled up into one big VCE Finance subject. But there is a question of whether to teach a very broad general finance subject or something more specific and probably more relevant to year 11/12 - "personal finance"

[jsimmo]

Well, at my school, we have this accelerated program, where we get to skip the pointlessness of year 10. complete 7,8,9&10 in 3 years, then get 3 years on our vce it works out great. so in year 11 i did six 1/2 subjects, (had the option of doing a 3/4, as i did 1/2 bio in year9) then second year of vce, (known as fake year 12) did 3 3/4 subjects and two 1/2 subjects. this year, final year of vce, doing 5 3/4 subjects.
Its a really good system, as it means we dont get bored with the earlier years as we are always advanced, and then get to do a wider range of subjects in vce
love my school!

Thats very similar to the same 'accelerated learning program' that my school offers, though I am not enrolled in it.

[dcc]

Well, at my school, we have this accelerated program, where we get to skip the pointlessness of year 10. complete 7,8,9&10 in 3 years, then get 3 years on our vce it works out great. so in year 11 i did six 1/2 subjects, (had the option of doing a 3/4, as i did 1/2 bio in year9) then second year of vce, (known as fake year 12) did 3 3/4 subjects and two 1/2 subjects. this year, final year of vce, doing 5 3/4 subjects.
Its a really good system, as it means we dont get bored with the earlier years as we are always advanced, and then get to do a wider range of subjects in vce
love my school!

Sounds very similar to what I did, however it wasn't a "program" as such more just a choice on my part.  Did 3 Year 12 subjects in year 11 and another 5 in year 12, with a few Year 11 subjects in Year 10.  Worked out fairly well, except I was forced to study Literature against my wishes by a ruthless principal.

[ninwa]

I'd have to say that this "year 10s aren't mature enough" argument is rubbish.

nah you do have year 10s who have down syndrome, at my school there's heaps of them

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[AppleXY]

oh yeah. A more specialised economics subject.

[droodles]

i love u too dcc

[Collin Li]

oh yeah. A more specialised economics subject.

I would argue that VCE isn't the right time for specialisation. How do we know this? Because universities don't include specific subjects into their selection criteria, for example: Legal Studies for law -- either because that subject is just a bad indicator of ability, or because they believe there is much to be gained by accepting students who haven't done Legal Studies as well. So I think VCE Economics will do.

Perhaps there should be a VCE Finance though...

[jess3254]

hahaha well. i know that like on average about 1/8 people get above 90 i think...
and with the mean study scores and whatever, most people do there more difficult subjects.
we have i think 0.5% of all the specialist maths students in the state!

and wow this is heaps off topic
just leave it at my school is awesome:)

Is that program called SEALP or something?...

It's what I did, basically.

But my school offers the IB diploma programme (a very challenging international alternative to VCE) and SEALP (or something similar), So students in the programme can do both IB and VCE subjects in year 10 and then decide whether they’d rather do the IB diploma or VCE at the start of year 11, or they can continue doing a combination. It's a great programme. I think it really combats boredom in academically able students in year 10. IB should be offered at more schools. yeah.

[Mao]

IB should be offered at more schools. yeah.

the process of international accreditation by the Council of International Schools is a very rigorous process that is not easily achieved. From memory, only a few schools have passed the selection process. My school applied earlier last year and didn't pass through the process. without this international accreditation the school cannot offer IB.

yeah, easier said than done. not every school can just decide to pick it up.

[AppleXY]

Perhaps there should be a VCE Finance though...

I WOULD SRSLY 50 THAT.

[jess3254]

IB should be offered at more schools. yeah.

the process of international accreditation by the Council of International Schools is a very rigorous process that is not easily achieved. From memory, only a few schools have passed the selection process. My school applied earlier last year and didn't pass through the process. without this international accreditation the school cannot offer IB.

yeah, easier said than done. not every school can just decide to pick it up.

Aw damn Why didn't you pass? What exactly are the rigorous requirements?

edit: I didn't say that schools could just "pick it up", it's definetly not that simple at all. But it'd be great if it were offered at more schools around Victoria so students have a choice; it's a great programme. Anyhoo

[RD]

I'd have to say that this "year 10s aren't mature enough" argument is rubbish.

nah you do have year 10s who have down syndrome, at my school there's heaps of them

yes same with my school.

[humph]

Does anyone else wish that schools had less power over your VCE? ie. If I wanted to do two 3/4's in Year 10, two in Year 11 and 4 in year 12 that they should not be able to tell me how to complete my VCE? (And I really don't know of any school that would allow you to do this so it's not just case of moving schools).

Year 9 and 10 was a waste of my time...

Same, I was told VCE physics and chem are just way too hard to do units 3/4 in year 11. Clearly, I would have struggled so much in those.
I didnt really know about vce in year 10 to even consider doing subjects back then But chem in year 10 would be nice, open up moar subject slotz

I did 3/4 physics in yr11 - I'd just gotten back from doing yr10 in Denmark, and units 1/2 physics would've been too easy for me as I would've already done half of it before. But in retrospect, I would've done much better at physics had I done it in yr12. I would've been more ready, I guess. In yr11 I bludged a fair bit and made heaps of stupid errors. On the other hand, I don't really regret doing it a year early, as it gave me loads of frees in yr12. That and I realised that I didn't care for physics that much.