MUEP OR UMEP???

[john.wu92]

Hello,

This year I am in year 11 taking Methods 3+4 CAS.
So next year I'm planning on taking further maths, and a Study Increment.

I was wondering which one should I take?

MUEP? UMEP?
Why?

Does anyone know what the course work is like?

Thanks! 

[riv]

MUEP is much easier than UMEP and i think less people do it which makes it less competitive! The contents we covered in UMEP are like second year engineering maths at Monash. We did induction, complex numbers, vectors, matrices, calculus, vector space, inner products, transformations, eigenvalues and eigenvectors. It was mainly linear algebra I guess...

[totaled]

MUEP, as it is much easier than UMEP, the only downside is that you have assignments which comprise of  40% of ur mark, which can be a good thing, especially if you do well in them , and that you have a mid year exam for it

but yeah, MUEP is lots easier than UMEP, and you have quite a high chance of getting a 5.0-5.5 increment

[Charmz]

I thought uni subjects weren't running next year?

[tram]

If you are considering doing Uni enhancement maths, you have to do Specialist Maths

this, just interested why you are doing further/not doing spech yet you want to do uni maths?

[riv]

If you are planning to do 4 maths subjects like me, I don't recommend it unless you want to a pursue a career that involves maths like actuarial studies, otherwise not all 4 will be counted towards your ATAR.

[john.wu92]

I am choosing further maths over specialists as it will not take as much time and it will be much easier for me.

I'm thinking of dropping physics for MUEP or UMEP to add as my 6th subject.

[Hutchoo]

If you are considering doing Uni enhancement maths, you have to do Specialist Maths

this, just interested why you are doing further/not doing spech yet you want to do uni maths?

You have to do spec if you want to do UMEP.

VCE requirements: Completion of Mathematical Methods 3/4 in Year 11 and enrolment in Specialist Mathematics 3/4 in Year 12; or concurrent enrolment in Mathematical Methods 3/4 and Specialist Mathematics 3/4 after completion of Mathematical Methods 1/2 and General Mathematics* (Specialist Mathematics orientation) 1/2.

As seen here.

[tram]

I am choosing further maths over specialists as it will not take as much time and it will be much easier for me.

I'm thinking of dropping physics for MUEP or UMEP to add as my 6th subject.

personally i'm of the opinion that if you don't want to do spech (regardless of whatever the requirements to do UMEP/MUEP are) because you think further is going to be easier or because it's going to take less time then you should be reconsidering doing uni maths in the first place.

again, you really haven't said why you want to do uni maths in the first place so that would be able to help others give you more personalized feedback.

Doing uni maths was one of the best choices i made, but it isn't just something you you jump into for the hell of it.

Personally if you're choosing to do further over spech then there's two reasons for that:

1) You think spech is too hard and will hence will take up too much time (in which case i don't know why you you would want to do uni maths as uni maths is conceptually a pretty big step up from spech which is already a step up from methods)

2) You want an easier high score (again, i don't know why you would want to do uni maths, it can only count as a 5th or 6th, uni subjects aren't something you do for the score, it's something you do because you genuinely enjoy the subject and want to further you knowledge. If a high score is what you want you would be better off dedicating that time to get a higher score in your primary subjects)

Uni maths is an awesome program, i wish more ppl would do it but i'll be the first to acknowledge in terms of boosting your atar it probably doesn't correlate to the effort required and unfortunately this turns ppl off, but i wholeheartedly encourage anyone that has a passion for maths to do it (if you have the passion you will cope with the course) but it isn't for everybody.

[schnappy]

Don't do a uni subject for the sake of doing a uni subject. If you really want to do a subject, then consider doing the relevant uni subject.

Do further by all means, but if you're avoiding spec on the pretense of it being time consuming/effortful I'd say you're looking at doing uni maths for the wrong reasons.

[vea]

People say MUEP is an easy 5.5 but the people in my class with this mindset have neglected it and not even been able to get a D for the first sem let alone a HD.

[mmonn1906]

I am choosing further maths over specialists as it will not take as much time and it will be much easier for me.

I'm thinking of dropping physics for MUEP or UMEP to add as my 6th subject.

+1

personally i'm of the opinion that if you don't want to do spech (regardless of whatever the requirements to do UMEP/MUEP are) because you think further is going to be easier or because it's going to take less time then you should be reconsidering doing uni maths in the first place.

again, you really haven't said why you want to do uni maths in the first place so that would be able to help others give you more personalized feedback.

Doing uni maths was one of the best choices i made, but it isn't just something you you jump into for the hell of it.

Personally if you're choosing to do further over spech then there's two reasons for that:

1) You think spech is too hard and will hence will take up too much time (in which case i don't know why you you would want to do uni maths as uni maths is conceptually a pretty big step up from spech which is already a step up from methods)

2) You want an easier high score (again, i don't know why you would want to do uni maths, it can only count as a 5th or 6th, uni subjects aren't something you do for the score, it's something you do because you genuinely enjoy the subject and want to further you knowledge. If a high score is what you want you would be better off dedicating that time to get a higher score in your primary subjects)

Uni maths is an awesome program, i wish more ppl would do it but i'll be the first to acknowledge in terms of boosting your atar it probably doesn't correlate to the effort required and unfortunately this turns ppl off, but i wholeheartedly encourage anyone that has a passion for maths to do it (if you have the passion you will cope with the course) but it isn't for everybody.