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Lols123

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Structures and Materials Question
« on: June 14, 2011, 04:17:42 pm »
Question 10
Shouldnt part of the beam be under tension at the bottom, since its a cantilever?

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Re: Structures and Materials Question
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2011, 04:22:37 pm »
How can on one side half be in tension and the other half be in compression? It can't. Imagine if the block at B wasn't there.

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Re: Structures and Materials Question
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2011, 04:24:01 pm »
what...thats how cantilevers normally work...

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Re: Structures and Materials Question
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2011, 04:27:56 pm »
Not necessarily true. Repeat the question, but stick a piece of rope in rather than a plank. The rope would sag between A and B.

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Re: Structures and Materials Question
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2011, 04:31:26 pm »
I imagined the question like a real life diving board, when you apply a force on the end the whole top of the material is in tension.

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Re: Structures and Materials Question
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2011, 04:38:04 pm »
Chemology 2011 also had a diving board question.
It asked which is true of the forces on the diving board:
A. The board is under compression
B. The board is under tension
C. The top of the board is under tension and the bottom is under compression
D. The bottom of the board is under tension and the top is under compression

The answer was C as the board will bend under Bella's weight. Thus, steel rods should be placed entirely at the top which is under tension.
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Re: Structures and Materials Question
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2011, 04:46:46 pm »
That's where I remember doing this question before.

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Re: Structures and Materials Question
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2011, 05:19:37 pm »
that was a simple question.
because the bottom will compress the top must be in tension THE WHOLE WAY

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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2011, 07:19:22 pm »
if i lost 3 marks, is that 50 material?
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Re: Structures and Materials Question
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2011, 07:33:44 pm »
that was a simple question.
because the bottom will compress the top must be in tension THE WHOLE WAY

Just had a chat to an assessor, he went with D. Most likely though they'd accept both.
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Re: Structures and Materials Question
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2011, 07:37:31 pm »
How the fuck do you get to have a chat with an assessor?

sorry, D as in the whole of the top was in tension?

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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2011, 07:45:26 pm »
He's one of our teachers at school....

Oh and whoops i just realised, I shouldn't have said "just," i had the chat straight after the exam.

No, D as in the ___------------ answer.
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Re: Structures and Materials Question
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2011, 07:51:30 pm »
Well, thushan, I can't agree with that, about the pivot point, it is clear that directly to the left and right will be in tension, so yeh...

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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2011, 08:11:56 pm »
Fair enough, we'll see.
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Re: Structures and Materials Question
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2011, 09:00:25 pm »
It's definitely A, the centre of mass of diving board was past the pole thing so the wall thing had to exert a downwards force to balance the structure!!