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Re: How "little" work did you do in year 12?
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2008, 06:46:35 pm »
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I guess people who work hard in middle school have a great advantage over those who only just start working hard in high school. Over the middle school years they accumulate 'smartness' and when VCE comes they can afford to not study and still get great marks, just from their 'accumulated smartness'. I wish my teachers reminded me more about that... but then, back in year 7-8 VCE seemed a million miles away.

Nah, Year 12 is the year to fire. Year 7-10 are the years to be regularly be getting marks of 50% on maths tests :)

Yup! I know I almost failed year 8 maths, LOL

My maths teacher actually called my dad in to discuss whether it was appropriate for me to be in the accelerated class. Can't say I'm particularly proud of that moment in my life :P

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Re: How "little" work did you do in year 12?
« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2008, 06:53:41 pm »
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How can you do that o_o
Surely year 7/8 maths is so easy you don't try and get 100%...

I got 100% on my year 8 semester 2 test, I got a A+++

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Re: How "little" work did you do in year 12?
« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2008, 06:55:24 pm »
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How can you do that o_o
Surely year 7/8 maths is so easy you don't try and get 100%...

I got 100% on my year 8 semester 2 test, I got a A+++
I remember the good old days where you could get over 100% :D
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Re: How "little" work did you do in year 12?
« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2008, 07:01:59 pm »
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How can you do that o_o
Surely year 7/8 maths is so easy you don't try and get 100%...

I got 100% on my year 8 semester 2 test, I got a A+++
I remember the good old days where you could get over 100% :D

In uni physics, one of our online assessment is run by the textbook, and the base rate is 100% per question but if you get parts right first guess without hints etc you get bonus marks, so at the end of it you get like 29.6/29 without having any idea how to do one of the questions :D

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Re: How "little" work did you do in year 12?
« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2008, 07:16:30 pm »
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As for this topic (with specific respect to bubble sunglasses' post about chemistry): make no mistake, I DID do a sufficient amount of work in year 12.

The problem is, the work was often done under the most stressed of conditions, usually VERY proportionally close to the assessment times (I.E. hours or days before SACs and only a few weeks before exams).
I had a routine going for chemistry in the 1 hour before the SAC. The reason this worked is because I have pretty good short term memory, AND (and here is the clincher) I had AMAZING notes from my teacher. Without that clincher, it wouldn't have worked.

A TERRIBLE by-product of this routine was whilst I had to do as minimal work as possible, I felt like crap because I was under the constant stress of "oh god, what if I don't learnt his stuff right, or forget it etc." and it was just a really unhealthy way to study. So, yes, I did quite minimal work, and I did average high 90s for chem sacs, but at what cost? I was never confident in Chemistry. Ever.

And how did that translate to external assessment? We finished the course 3 weeks before the exam and I remembered almost none of chem, bar common sense stuff. I got something like 53% on my first practice exam, 3 or so weeks before the actual exam date. Not to mention that I still had other SACs to cram for. I SCRAMBLED to do something like 30 practice exams, I forget how many now but it was between 25-35, so I'll just go with 30. Much to my detriment, it somehow managed to work and I got 70/73 on the mid-year. I never learnt my lesson. I settled into the EXACT SAME rhythm for next unit, and lo and behold come 3 weeks before exam time exact same situation. The problem? I had 4 other exams.

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Stupid, stupid, STUPID. I somehow managed to get a miraculous 30 exams done again, but they were all EXCEEDINGLY rushed and most done with the solutions open to teach myself the course. It didn't work nearly as well this time, and I dropped 9 marks on exam 2 and it brought me down, especially when you consider my performance on mid-year.

When I tell people I did little work in year 12, it's a fair statement. I didn't do consistent work, so if you averaged out my cram sessions over the year, you'd find that it came out to ~ 30 - 45 mins a day. I definitely did more work than most in the leadup to exams, I think I can be sure of that. But in terms of consistent work throughout the year - it just didn't exist for me.

In fact, I'll do a quick calculation of that and see how it averages out.

12 chem SACs = 12 hours
5 spec SACs = 4-5 hours (unimaths eased my need to study)
Consistent UMEP work in term 1 of about 30 hours (fell away after that though, unfortunately)
1 tertiary maths mid-year = 2-3 hours
6 english SACs = 18 hours

Chem exam 1 = 40 hours
Chem exam 2 = 25 hours
Spec exams 1+2 = 45 hours (~20 exams each of both 1 and 2)
English exam = 18 hours (i think i did roughly 20 practice essays in total across all sections of the exam)
Tertiary maths exam = 25 hours (~15 exams varying between 2 and 3 hours)

Also, in working out the time for practice exams, I rarely ever took the full time allotted and generally finished 1 hour exams in 45 min to an hour, 1.5 hour exams in 1 hour, 2 hour exams in ~ 1.5 hrs and 3 hour exams in ~ 2.5 hours.

Total time studied (roughly) = 231 hours.

The school year is about 322 days long (46 weeks * 7 days) - including 'holidays' as they are known in VCE, because work was done during them and they're by no means off limits during VCE (bulk of VCE work done in term 3 holidays, in fact).

so 231/322 = .717 hrs/day = 43 minutes a day of work across all subjects.

I'd say compared to most, that's relatively little time but spent in MASSIVE concentrations.

I JUST WANT TO SAY that it was an EXCEEDINGLY stressful way of studying, and needless to say I've carried this over to uni and I'm now really trying to work on getting rid of these nasty habits, because let me tell you, they do *not* work at uni. Ever. At all. For me, anyway. I thoroughly do not advise this method of studying. I also think I was very irresponsible to post this in the original thread, but I did and now I should qualify that and say how ridiculously stupid it was to study that way. It's stressful and if it doesn't work, you are so screwed it's not funny.

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Re: How "little" work did you do in year 12?
« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2008, 07:27:33 pm »
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  I wasn't talking about how much work you did. I just was saying that "completely fucked" was rather an exageration of how badly you did in exam 2, and likewise, others overstate how little work they do.
  I've heard it's the opposite in France, where people brag about how *much* work they've done

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Re: How "little" work did you do in year 12?
« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2008, 07:33:49 pm »
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Don't you hate it when you in all honestly did no revision/ no study and receive top marks in your SAC, only to be ridiculed and tormented by other people for supposedly lying about studying for your SAC?

I'm sure this has happened to people heaps...

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Re: How "little" work did you do in year 12?
« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2008, 07:36:29 pm »
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Don't you hate it when you in all honestly did no revision/ no study and receive top marks in your SAC, only to be ridiculed and tormented by other people for supposedly lying about studying for your SAC?

I'm sure this has happened to people heaps...
happens heaps to friends of mine.

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Re: How "little" work did you do in year 12?
« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2008, 07:39:15 pm »
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Don't you hate it when you in all honestly did no revision/ no study and receive top marks in your SAC, only to be ridiculed and tormented by other people for supposedly lying about studying for your SAC?

I'm sure this has happened to people heaps...
Yes. I sometimes wonder if people think this about me; I've often relied on natural ability (I'm not bragging) rather than study

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Re: How "little" work did you do in year 12?
« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2008, 09:34:57 pm »
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I JUST WANT TO SAY that it was an EXCEEDINGLY stressful way of studying, and needless to say I've carried this over to uni and I'm now really trying to work on getting rid of these nasty habits, because let me tell you, they do *not* work at uni. Ever. At all. For me, anyway. I thoroughly do not advise this method of studying. I also think I was very irresponsible to post this in the original thread, but I did and now I should qualify that and say how ridiculously stupid it was to study that way. It's stressful and if it doesn't work, you are so screwed it's not funny.
Here's my life so far this year, starting about halfway through year 11 holidays:
- necessities of survival, i.e. sleep, eat, drink, toilet
- study
- went out with friends about 5? times
- moar study
- procrastination to keep me sane
- etc, study

...and I've still somehow managed to fall behind by ~4 lessons for all my subjects, mainly because the teacher keeps pushing ahead with the next chapter before we finish the sac for the last chapter.

If most people out there are feeling burnt out, then I am the charred remains of what was once a VCE student.

So either way you'll end up feeling shit. Therefore, I command all of you to stop studying and party like there's no tomorrow. Now.

Pretty please?
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Re: How "little" work did you do in year 12?
« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2008, 09:52:21 pm »
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I always tend to go ahead of the class... But whenever I do, I don't understand the key concepts :( It's happening in Methods and Specialist... I don't think I will even get 20 in either of them :'(

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Re: How "little" work did you do in year 12?
« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2008, 08:46:35 am »
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I JUST WANT TO SAY that it was an EXCEEDINGLY stressful way of studying, and needless to say I've carried this over to uni and I'm now really trying to work on getting rid of these nasty habits, because let me tell you, they do *not* work at uni. Ever. At all. For me, anyway. I thoroughly do not advise this method of studying. I also think I was very irresponsible to post this in the original thread, but I did and now I should qualify that and say how ridiculously stupid it was to study that way. It's stressful and if it doesn't work, you are so screwed it's not funny.
Here's my life so far this year, starting about halfway through year 11 holidays:
- necessities of survival, i.e. sleep, eat, drink, toilet
- study
- went out with friends about 5? times
- moar study
- procrastination to keep me sane
- etc, study

...and I've still somehow managed to fall behind by ~4 lessons for all my subjects, mainly because the teacher keeps pushing ahead with the next chapter before we finish the sac for the last chapter.

If most people out there are feeling burnt out, then I am the charred remains of what was once a VCE student.

So either way you'll end up feeling shit. Therefore, I command all of you to stop studying and party like there's no tomorrow. Now.

Pretty please?

Both are pretty poor methods of studying. The key is to do work and study throughout the whole year and to at least try to commit things to memory as you are learning them. However, it's much more likely that most study will happen just before an assessment of some kind. If you balance it out, it isn't really that stressful and its certainly sustainable. That said, different people have different tolerances. I think if a lot of people studied like I did they would get burned out, even though I didn't burn out (until the end of the year when it was allowed).

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Re: How "little" work did you do in year 12?
« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2008, 12:26:21 pm »
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   "I had a routine going for chemistry in the 1 hour before the SAC. The reason this worked is because I have pretty good short term memory"

 
       Psych ppl will tell you short term memory only lasts about 20 seconds [a bit more or less according to other estimates] :P

       

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Re: How "little" work did you do in year 12?
« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2008, 12:58:36 pm »
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what enter did u get enwaibe, ?

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Re: How "little" work did you do in year 12?
« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2008, 01:13:09 pm »
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Don't you hate it when you in all honestly did no revision/ no study and receive top marks in your SAC, only to be ridiculed and tormented by other people for supposedly lying about studying for your SAC?

I'm sure this has happened to people heaps...
Yes. I sometimes wonder if people think this about me; I've often relied on natural ability (I'm not bragging) rather than study

+1.

And also all the times when you get the right answer, then someone asks you to explain it, then when you can't they accuse you of guessing. I know it is right, just give me 5 minutes to translate what I did in my head into words.
Especially annoying when the teacher asks some multi choice question and everyone is randomly guessing and you are the only one to confidently say the right answer, at which point you get asked why its true.

The ones who accepted I was different (both students and teachers) were great, the ones that didn't were.. well yeah.
Like my chem teacher in year 12 was cool with me for doing annoying things such as when she was writing up checkpoints questions on the board, and I had done them about a week ago, so she would start writing the question stem eg "blahblah is a weak acid which is used to..." and from that I would state the correct answer :D And then after a few they realised I wasn't just guessing letters =)

what enter did u get enwaibe, ?
He got 99.45
Note: He has publically said this on this site before so I don't see why I can't answer for him :P