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ln or loge?
« on: November 09, 2008, 10:09:25 pm »
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Am i allowed to write ln instead of loge on exams? I've gotten into the habit of writing ln (it's shorter!).

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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2008, 10:10:45 pm »
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Shouldn't make a i difference but just to be sure I would stick with loge it's only 2 extra figures!  ;)
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Re: ln or loge?
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2008, 10:13:23 pm »
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Don't do it. It's just calculator notation, not formal maths notation. It's the same as not being allowed to write 10^3 or whatever.
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Re: ln or loge?
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2008, 10:14:04 pm »
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yeh they dont allow answers like 3E-5, so i wouldnt risk it
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Re: ln or loge?
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2008, 10:16:26 pm »
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Yeah, loge looks nicer anyways. :) Much easier to understand in my opinion.

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Re: ln or loge?
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2008, 10:38:36 pm »
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Just a quick question regarding logs on calculators:

How do you change the base from 'e' to something else? In catalog there's 'logbase' but i'm not too sure how to use it. I use a TI-89 btw.

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Re: ln or loge?
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2008, 10:41:10 pm »
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For 89's, diamond->7 gets you the log command. From there, just type log(3,2) for Otherwise for 84 people, just use change of base and have ln(3)/ln(2)
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2008, 10:42:24 pm »
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perfect! thanks alot
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Re: ln or loge?
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2008, 10:44:04 pm »
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I disagree.

Writing ln(x) in place loge is common practice.

Just go to the wikipedia article on Natural logarithm, it's plagued with ln's instead of log's

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Re: ln or loge?
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2008, 10:45:53 pm »
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Not sure if examiners take it the same way though. Teachers definitely hate it.
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2008, 10:48:52 pm »
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Yes you are. No one really cares, at least in higher level mathematics.

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Re: ln or loge?
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2008, 10:51:09 pm »
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Yes but this is VCE land where writing intercepts only as numbers counts as a loss of a mark. I personally wouldn't risk it because I know my teachers definitely hated it. The risks outweigh the benefits o_o
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Re: ln or loge?
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2008, 10:52:26 pm »
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Not sure if examiners take it the same way though. Teachers definitely hate it.
Yes but this is VCE land where writing intercepts only as numbers counts as a loss of a mark. I personally wouldn't risk it because I know my teachers definitely hated it. The risks outweigh the benefits o_o

Opposite at my school.  All my teachers use it.

I think it's personal preference.
Yes you are. No one really cares, at least in higher level mathematics.

Exactly.

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Re: ln or loge?
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2008, 10:55:02 pm »
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Opposite at my school.  All my teachers use it.

I think it's personal preference.
Well if it's personal preference, doesn't that imply theres a chance you could lose marks? Then why risk it? But whatever, do what you want. This really isn't worth arguing over -_-"
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Re: ln or loge?
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2008, 10:56:18 pm »
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My teacher uses when is one of the terminals for an integral.
I use when I write integrals (less cramped).