Login

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

April 30, 2025, 09:31:02 am

Author Topic: Suggested Solutions - DONE  (Read 20737 times)  Share 

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Synesthetic

  • 2008 VN Dux
  • Victorian
  • Trendsetter
  • **
  • Posts: 177
Re: Suggested Solutions
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2008, 12:59:49 pm »
6c...
the step from reactant to products actually consumes slightly more energy than is released from products to reactants.

so you'd have a net gain of CO2 actually.
My understanding was, the question involves the production of methanol by electrolysis (thus consuming CO2), balanced against its subsequent use in combustion engines (thus producing CO2) => overall carbon neutrality.
2007- History Revs (44)[46], Chinese SL (32)[44]
2008- English (50)[50], Literature (50)[50], Methods (49)[49.7], Specialist (44)[50.5], Chemistry (41)[45]
ENTER: 99.95

monicak

  • Victorian
  • Trendsetter
  • **
  • Posts: 121
Re: Suggested Solutions
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2008, 01:01:17 pm »
17)
From the given equations you can determine that the Cr3+ reduction equation lies below Co2+ and above Fe2+, because Cr2+ reduces Co2+, and Cr3+ oxidises Fe
Pb2+ is above Co2+ hence Pb2+ reacts spontaneously with Cr2+
None of the other choices result in a spontaneous reaction
Thank you :)

bucket

  • Victorian
  • Part of the furniture
  • *****
  • Posts: 1005
Re: Suggested Solutions
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2008, 01:03:55 pm »
6c...
the step from reactant to products actually consumes slightly more energy than is released from products to reactants.

so you'd have a net gain of CO2 actually.
My understanding was, the question involves the production of methanol by electrolysis (thus consuming CO2), balanced against its subsequent use in combustion engines (thus producing CO2) => overall carbon neutrality.

I wrote the same thing =\
Monash University
Science/Engineering (Maths, Physics and Electrical Engineering)

Pandemonium

  • Victorian
  • Forum Obsessive
  • ***
  • Posts: 200
Re: Suggested Solutions
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2008, 01:05:08 pm »
well i don't know am i wrong?

riadnicolas

  • Victorian
  • Forum Obsessive
  • ***
  • Posts: 390
Re: Suggested Solutions
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2008, 01:05:23 pm »
6c...
the step from reactant to products actually consumes slightly more energy than is released from products to reactants.

so you'd have a net gain of CO2 actually.

My understanding was, the question involves the production of methanol by electrolysis (thus consuming CO2), balanced against its subsequent use in combustion engines (thus producing CO2) => overall carbon neutrality.

wasnt it just about methanol production in fuel cell
VCE 2008 Enter: 97.15

English, 32
Chemistry, 42
Methods, 46
Specialist, 41
Business Management, 38
Umep Maths, <64 P>

Bachelor of Biomedicine-UOM 09

doboman

  • Victorian
  • Forum Leader
  • ****
  • Posts: 540
Re: Suggested Solutions
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2008, 01:06:27 pm »
i thought it was getting rid of CO2
"Acknowledge Him in all your ways, and He will direct your paths"

Synesthetic

  • 2008 VN Dux
  • Victorian
  • Trendsetter
  • **
  • Posts: 177
Re: Suggested Solutions
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2008, 01:07:59 pm »
3b was which one had more than one proton didn't it?
well we know that the [acid] was all 0.1M
therefore, assuming complete ionisation of the acid, we'd have [H+] = 0.1M
pH would therefore be equal to 1 at the minimum if it were monoprotic.
acid III i think had pH 0.7, therefore it had to be at least diprotic.

(from the other thread)

Thanks, that sounds like the required explanation!
2007- History Revs (44)[46], Chinese SL (32)[44]
2008- English (50)[50], Literature (50)[50], Methods (49)[49.7], Specialist (44)[50.5], Chemistry (41)[45]
ENTER: 99.95

nathankb

  • Victorian
  • Trailblazer
  • *
  • Posts: 41
Re: Suggested Solutions
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2008, 01:08:47 pm »
where are mao's answers to section b??

bucket

  • Victorian
  • Part of the furniture
  • *****
  • Posts: 1005
Re: Suggested Solutions
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2008, 01:09:20 pm »
i thought it was getting rid of CO2

Yeah but then the methanol was used in a combustion engine, hence producing more CO2.
Monash University
Science/Engineering (Maths, Physics and Electrical Engineering)

Synesthetic

  • 2008 VN Dux
  • Victorian
  • Trendsetter
  • **
  • Posts: 177
Re: Suggested Solutions
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2008, 01:09:34 pm »
6c...
the step from reactant to products actually consumes slightly more energy than is released from products to reactants.

so you'd have a net gain of CO2 actually.

My understanding was, the question involves the production of methanol by electrolysis (thus consuming CO2), balanced against its subsequent use in combustion engines (thus producing CO2) => overall carbon neutrality.

wasnt it just about methanol production in fuel cell

Oh - yeah, it WAS a fuel cell wasn't it...

i thought it was getting rid of CO2
CO2 was on the reactants side of the equation producing methanol
2007- History Revs (44)[46], Chinese SL (32)[44]
2008- English (50)[50], Literature (50)[50], Methods (49)[49.7], Specialist (44)[50.5], Chemistry (41)[45]
ENTER: 99.95

monicak

  • Victorian
  • Trendsetter
  • **
  • Posts: 121
Re: Suggested Solutions
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2008, 01:10:17 pm »
I said it was neutral, since 1 mol of methanol produced 1 mol of CO2 in the combustion and 1 mol of CO2 was used to produce 1 mol of methanol...

charm

  • Victorian
  • Adventurer
  • *
  • Posts: 11
Re: Suggested Solutions
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2008, 01:11:36 pm »
I said it was neutral, since 1 mol of methanol produced 1 mol of CO2 in the combustion and 1 mol of CO2 was used to produce 1 mol of methanol...

yes me too...

riadnicolas

  • Victorian
  • Forum Obsessive
  • ***
  • Posts: 390
Re: Suggested Solutions
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2008, 01:14:19 pm »
6c...
the step from reactant to products actually consumes slightly more energy than is released from products to reactants.

so you'd have a net gain of CO2 actually.

My understanding was, the question involves the production of methanol by electrolysis (thus consuming CO2), balanced against its subsequent use in combustion engines (thus producing CO2) => overall carbon neutrality.

wasnt it just about methanol production in fuel cell

Oh - yeah, it WAS a fuel cell wasn't it...

i thought it was getting rid of CO2
CO2 was on the reactants side of the equation producing methanol

wat did the question say exactly?
VCE 2008 Enter: 97.15

English, 32
Chemistry, 42
Methods, 46
Specialist, 41
Business Management, 38
Umep Maths, <64 P>

Bachelor of Biomedicine-UOM 09

bucket

  • Victorian
  • Part of the furniture
  • *****
  • Posts: 1005
Re: Suggested Solutions
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2008, 01:15:41 pm »
Something like what was the overall affect on the atmospheric CO2 concentration.
Monash University
Science/Engineering (Maths, Physics and Electrical Engineering)

Mao

  • CH41RMN
  • Honorary Moderator
  • Great Wonder of ATAR Notes
  • *******
  • Posts: 9181
  • School: Kambrya College
  • School Grad Year: 2008
Re: Suggested Solutions - DONE
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2008, 01:23:25 pm »
6c...
the step from reactant to products actually consumes slightly more energy than is released from products to reactants.

so you'd have a net gain of CO2 actually.

My understanding was, the question involves the production of methanol by electrolysis (thus consuming CO2), balanced against its subsequent use in combustion engines (thus producing CO2) => overall carbon neutrality.

wasnt it just about methanol production in fuel cell

Oh - yeah, it WAS a fuel cell wasn't it...

i thought it was getting rid of CO2
CO2 was on the reactants side of the equation producing methanol

wat did the question say exactly?
what's this about fuel cell...? i don't see it on that page at all

just "electrolytic cell"
Editor for ATARNotes Chemistry study guides.

VCE 2008 | Monash BSc (Chem., Appl. Math.) 2009-2011 | UoM BScHon (Chem.) 2012 | UoM PhD (Chem.) 2013-2015