The employment outcomes of Arts graduates

[brendan]

The repetitive posting of any article you found which criticized arts degrees used to be mildly annoying, but now it's just getting really quite sad and downright pathetic.
I think we get the point.

How is this article "critical" of arts? It seems more like you don't like or can't handle the message, so you choose shoot down the messenger.

Such a predictable response.
Why wouldn't I be able to handle the message? I'm not even currently considering doing an Arts degree, I am looking to do Medicine, so as far as that goes I don't really care.

You might just be the "messenger", but you're certainly being very selective about the messages you deliver.
No one is forcing you or is requesting that you create these threads whenever you find an article which suggests Arts Graduates earn less money. And not only are you posting these articles repetitively, but you're also posting articles from different sources yet with essentially the same information, after people have already refuted it and given their counter arguments in other threads.

So what is your motive behind posting these? Because in all honestly, it's getting pretty damn pathetic now.

I post plenty of articles on VN, and why do I need a motive? I can do what I like. Furthermore, what is it that you find so  annoying about the articles? How are the articles "critical"?

[jess3254]

That's fine, you can choose to post what you wish. As long as you aware that it reflects badly on you for posting something so repetitively.

2. Where have I said that I am not interested in "furthering ... general education" or "something different besides how to make money"?

And where exactly have I said that you weren't interested in furthering general education and were only interested in making money? I think you will find I didn't.

EDIT: he edited his post while I was writing the response...

[brendan]

That's fine, you can choose to post what you wish. As long as you aware that it reflects badly on you for posting something so repetitively.

2. Where have I said that I am not interested in "furthering ... general education" or "something different besides how to make money"?

And where exactly have I said that you weren't interested in furthering general education and were only interested in making money? I think you will find I didn't.

EDIT: he edited his post while I was writing the response..

What is it that you find so annoying about the articles and how are the articles "critical"?

[enwiabe]

Brendan, you can play the innocent self-victimising "WHAT, ME?!" game as much as you like, but anyone with half a brain can see through it. You either dislike arts degrees/students/whatever, or enjoy provoking this response from your repeated posting of such articles, or a bit of both (in fact I'm sure it's a combination of the two). Stop acting as if this isn't deliberate - it is.

This whole "WHAT, ME?!" act is beginning to get annoying. Man up and actually declare your vendetta against arts degrees/students instead of passively-aggressively antagonising people with your constant bullshit.

This post is dedicated to ninwa

[orsel]

Why wouldn't I be able to handle the message? I'm not even currently considering doing an Arts degree, I am looking to do Medicine, so as far as that goes I don't really care.

So by that logic, men would be expected to be indifferent to, say, the issues in abortion as it doesn't directly affect them.

I think we get the point.

What is this point? Is this what troubles and "annoys" you?

That's fine, you can choose to post what you wish.

If you make this concession, then why attack Brendan as "pathetic" and "annoying"?

And where exactly have I said that you weren't interested in furthering general education and were only interested in making money? I think you will find I didn't.

Conversely, where have you said that he was interested in furthering general education and not only interested in making money? You have not.

Again, what is it that you find so critical about the articles and how are the articles "annoying"?

Stop acting as if this isn't deliberate - it is.

Which part do you see as deliberate? He is merely posting up articles.

[brendan]

Man up and actually declare your vendetta against arts degrees/students instead of passively-aggressively antagonising people with your constant bullshit.

What bullshit? The articles? I am just the messenger.

It says more that people like you choose to make unsubstantiated accusations against the messenger rather than address the message.

Brendan, you can play the innocent self-victimising "WHAT, ME?!"

It's more like people making unsubstantiated accusations. If a person is going to make an accusation then they better stand ready to provide some evidence.

[enwiabe]

You have the power to choose which articles you post up. The considerable proportion of articles that you post up which are critical of the arts degree, indicates a heavy bias on your part. Indeed, a quick glance at the first page of this forum alone yields 30% of your topics to be on negative aspects of the arts degree.

You are a coward, and you refuse to own up to your bias.

[brendan]

How is this article critical of the Arts degree?

[enwiabe]

Notice that I have used arts degree and arts student interchangeably as I am unsure where your vendetta truly lies

[enwiabe]

Also, you're grasping at straws now.

[brendan]

Notice that I have used arts degree and arts student interchangeably as I am unsure where your vendetta truly lies

You know why are you are unsure; it is because you are just speculating about some supposed "vendetta", without providing any substantial evidence at all.

You have the power to choose which articles you post up. The considerable proportion of articles that you post up which are critical of the arts degree, indicates a heavy bias on your part. Indeed, a quick glance at the first page of this forum alone yields 30% of your topics to be on negative aspects of the arts degree.

How is it "negative"?

[brendan]

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Education/documents/2007/02/07/UUKfulltext.pdf

One of the first analyses to consider the economic benefits of higher education subjects found that men in possession of an undergraduate degree achieved an earnings premium of approximately 15% over individuals in  possession of A-levels.The corresponding estimate for women was 19%.

However, men in possession of mathematics degrees achieved a 25.7% earnings premium over those with A-levels as their highest qualification, while corresponding women achieved a 38.6% earnings premium. In contrast,the premium for men in possession of undergraduate degrees in the arts was 4% less relative to those individuals with A-levels,whilst women achieved a  17% premium. Irrespective of the subject of study,the financial benefit of completing a degree is much greater for women than for men, but this may be due to the relatively low earnings of non-graduate women.

[excal]

You have the power to choose which articles you post up. The considerable proportion of articles that you post up which are critical of the arts degree, indicates a heavy bias on your part.

So?

Also, you're grasping at straws now.

You have a habit of trying to end arguments (and having the last word) in this manner and failing miserably each and every single time.

There was another example of the above in the 'Muslims' thread, but that's gone now.

[enwiabe]

... Every article you have posted about the arts degree has talked about the arts degree negatively. This article is awakening the old stereotype (true or not) that arts students are merely burger-flippers at mcdonald's etc.

Don't do this "omg how is it negative?" bullshit.

And no, I'm not unsure because i'm "speculating" with unsubstantiated evidence. It's because I'm unsure where your vendetta stems from.

Your focus on the arts degree and its negative aspects in a RIDICULOUSLY HIGH proportion of your posts is evidence enough of your bias. Your denial of it is a clear indication of your cowardice.

[enwiabe]

Hahahahahahaha, way to reinforce my point. You are quite obsessed with arts students Brendan. Methinks you just like provoking a response. A little bit attention starved? HERE'S YOUR ATTENTION BRENDAN