The employment outcomes of Arts graduates

[enwiabe]

Brendan, I did not condescend you at all in these posts up until that last post. And it was done as exaggerated sarcasm to give you a dose of your own medicine

[jaynie13]

Seriously, though, just what is your problem with arts?? You're clearly not an arts student, and I simply do not understand why you insist on posting these articles. Because really, no-one cares about this information except for you apparently

[enwiabe]

For fuck's sake. It's fucking trolling. How pointless...

Yeah, I think the word is "pathetic".

[Eriny]

I'm thinking maybe we should merge all of these types of Arts threads (I can't call them 'anti-Arts' threads, or 'negative Arts' threads) into one topic, because it just involves the same posts getting rehashed.

[brendan]

Brendan, I did not condescend you at all in these posts up until that last post. And it was done as exaggerated sarcasm to give you a dose of your own medicine

Just where have I been condescending, resorted to name-calling, and made unsubstantiated accusations against certain persons, in the act of simply posting articles?

[Collin Li]

Brendan, I did not condescend you at all in these posts up until that last post. And it was done as exaggerated sarcasm to give you a dose of your own medicine

Not really, because he kind of owned you in the posts before you had to resort to ad hominem.

... Every article you have posted about the arts degree has talked about the arts degree negatively.

How is every article "negative" regarding the Arts degree?

This article is awakening the old stereotype (true or not) that arts students are merely burger-flippers at mcdonald's etc.

Where in the article does it state that all arts students "are merely burger-flippers at mcdonald's"? The only person that has actually said that in this thread is you.

Once again, I'll bring my point from another thread. These are the summary statistics about arts. They are true facts, you cannot deny them. However, people who take Arts degrees may not necessarily take them for their high job prospects. There are other things to life. Brendan never said that "jobs" are the only thing that are important, so he has never been posting "negative" articles about Arts. They only become negative when you attach your own values and draw your own meanings from the statistics.

[enwiabe]

Eriny, if you want to, I give you permission to do it I cbf investing that much effort into Brendan's pathetic trolling attempts. But, if you want to, by all means

[Collin Li]

Seriously, though, just what is your problem with arts?? You're clearly not an arts student, and I simply do not understand why you insist on posting these articles. Because really, no-one cares about this information except for you apparently

Ignore them then. Getting riled up is probably more of an indication that you care than you don't.

[brendan]

I vehemently disagree with the proposition that the threads are "anti-Arts". To those that claim that they are: just how are these threads "anti-Arts"?

[jaynie13]

^ oh, i ignore them, and i don't care, because they'll never change my opinions about arts. I'm more interested in discovering why brendan is so anti-Arts - a question he seems unable to answer.

[jaynie13]

^ oops, that was in reply to coblin

[enwiabe]

Brendan, I did not condescend you at all in these posts up until that last post. And it was done as exaggerated sarcasm to give you a dose of your own medicine

Not really, because he kind of owned you in the posts before you had to resort to ad hominem.

... Every article you have posted about the arts degree has talked about the arts degree negatively.

How is every article "negative" regarding the Arts degree?

This article is awakening the old stereotype (true or not) that arts students are merely burger-flippers at mcdonald's etc.

Where in the article does it state that all arts students "are merely burger-flippers at mcdonald's"? The only person that has actually said that in this thread is you.

Once again, I'll bring my point from another thread. These are the summary statistics about arts. They are true facts, you cannot deny them. However, people who take Arts degrees may not necessarily take them for their high job prospects. There are other things to life. Brendan never said that "jobs" are the only thing that are important, so he has never been posting "negative" articles about Arts. They only become negative when you attach your own values and draw your own meanings from the statistics.

Lol, brendan didn't own me by any stretch of the imagination. All he did was show how coarse the straws are that he's willing to clutch in order to hide behind the truth of his arts vendetta. And his repeated posting of these "summary statistics" shows his bias and condescension of the arts degrees. There are also numerous times where he's posted saying that arts (or, at least, certain arts subjects) should no longer be given HECS funding. But he hasn't said this of other courses. It's ONLY been Arts, pretty much. It is clear that he has a bias against arts. His refusal to admit this is pure cowardice, and my calling him on this fact is not unjustified when he's simply being a pathetic troll.

[Collin Li]

How is he being anti-Arts?

When you look at his posts, they seem innocent, and sure, he may have another motive, but one has to wonder why such a calm and collected post can elicit such a response.

You have to ask the reader. They are attaching meanings to the message that didn't come bundled with it. If you find these posts outrageous or annoying, you are merely victim to your own perception.

[Collin Li]

Lol, brendan didn't own me by any stretch of the imagination. All he did was show how coarse the straws are that he's willing to clutch in order to hide behind the truth of his arts vendetta. And his repeated posting of these "summary statistics" shows his bias and condescension of the arts degrees. There are also numerous times where he's posted saying that arts (or, at least, certain arts subjects) should no longer be given HECS funding. But he hasn't said this of other courses. It's ONLY been Arts, pretty much. It is clear that he has a bias against arts. His refusal to admit this is pure cowardice, and my calling him on this fact is not unjustified when he's simply being a pathetic troll.

Wrong. He is against HECS funding for all subjects, and he has publicly stated this. Once again, these statistics are not 'biased' or 'condescending'. They are mere numbers, and averages compiled from empirical evidence. They are facts. Read my post. They only become "negative" when you attach your own meaning to it. That requires your own value-input, something like "employment is good", before it becomes bad.

[brendan]

Lol, brendan didn't own me by any stretch of the imagination. All he did was show how coarse the straws are that he's willing to clutch in order to hide behind the truth of his arts vendetta. And his repeated posting of these "summary statistics" shows his bias and condescension of the arts degrees. There are also numerous times where he's posted saying that arts (or, at least, certain arts subjects) should no longer be given HECS funding. But he hasn't said this of other courses. It's ONLY been Arts, pretty much. It is clear that he has a bias against arts. His refusal to admit this is pure cowardice, and my calling him on this fact is not unjustified when he's simply being a pathetic troll.

Wrong. He is against HECS funding for all subjects, and he has publicly stated this.

Numerous times at that. And not so much against the idea/principle behind Income Contingent Loans likes HECS-HELP and FEE-HELP, but rather outright subsidies from the Commonwealth Government.

They are mere numbers, and averages compiled from empirical evidence. They are facts. Read my post. They only become "negative" when you attach your own meaning to it. That requires your own value-input, something like "employment is good", before it becomes bad.

That's exactly right.