I'm Sorry

[dekoyl]

He's made his light apology. This is dragging on because of the people who're going on and on about how he doesn't mean it or he's not going to change or he just wants attention/karma. Ffs, how hard is it to accept an apology and move on?

Oops I should change it. What I meant was "You've made your light apology"

[ninwa]

Oh, my bad

[chid]

Sigh...

I seriously hope that everyone on here is not THAT gullible as to believe that this thread was started out of the goodness of his own heart.

Trying to get karma back. Once its back. Bang! Troll is back and the vicious cycle continues forever.

Example: Roflmao continuously, but he's a kid. But this from a guy going into year 12 is a bit of a joke tbh

I think Cloud deserves the benefit of the doubt here.
We are exposed to so many instances of individuals utilising the lack of identity and transparency over the internet to behave in a deplorable manner. Recently I found the acrimonious nature of some of the post-exams discussion thread quite disconcerting-with debate over discrepancies turning into personal vilification and displays of blatant arrogance. If some of these comments had been made in face to face interactions, there would have been serious repercussions. But sadly such instances seem commonplace and almost acceptable over the internet. The seclusion of identity on internet forums seems to predispose some individuals to relinquish accountability and responsibility for their actions, simply due to immunity from the consequences. Daniel could quite easily have been one of these people, but the fact is he apologised and went some way towards redemption by contributing positively to prospective Methods students on VN.

What this suggests to me is that Daniel genuinely regrets some of his past comments/actions and wishes to contribute to the community rather than hindering it. Consequently, I don't beleive that this apology was simply an opportunity to replenish his karma. It was merely an expression of feelings of guilt and a commitment to future improvement. Finally I beleive that regardless of Cloud's intentions, it is unfair to regard his apology with cynicism and doubt that 'it was from the goodness of his heart.' Obviously by apologising Cloud hopes also to relieve his own misgivings and absolve his own feelings of guilt concerning his past comments. At the end of the day we wouldn't seek to serve others if there was some inherent detrimental impact upon ourselves. The capacity to truly serve others while harming oneself is limited to only a few exceptional individuals in the history of civilisation. I guess what I am trying to say is Cloud's expression of an apology, regardless of his motivations for doing so, should be viewed as a step in the right direction.

[dekoyl]

^I must say that was well written and I admit, I've expanded my vocabulary from that.

[shinny]

Sigh...

I seriously hope that everyone on here is not THAT gullible as to believe that this thread was started out of the goodness of his own heart.

Trying to get karma back. Once its back. Bang! Troll is back and the vicious cycle continues forever.

Example: Roflmao continuously, but he's a kid. But this from a guy going into year 12 is a bit of a joke tbh

I think Cloud deserves the benefit of the doubt here.
We are exposed to so many instances of individuals utilising the lack of identity and transparency over the internet to behave in a deplorable manner. Recently I found the acrimonious nature of some of the post-exams discussion thread quite disconcerting-with debate over discrepancies turning into personal vilification and displays of blatant arrogance. If some of these comments had been made in face to face interactions, there would have been serious repercussions. But sadly such instances seem commonplace and almost acceptable over the internet. The seclusion of identity on internet forums seems to predispose some individuals to relinquish accountability and responsibility for their actions, simply due to immunity from the consequences. Daniel could quite easily have been one of these people, but the fact is he apologised and went some way towards redemption by contributing positively to prospective Methods students on VN.

What this suggests to me is that Daniel genuinely regrets some of his past comments/actions and wishes to contribute to the community rather than hindering it. Consequently, I don't beleive that this apology was simply an opportunity to replenish his karma. It was merely an expression of feelings of guilt and a commitment to future improvement. Finally I beleive that regardless of Cloud's intentions, it is unfair to regard his apology with cynicism and doubt that 'it was from the goodness of his heart.' Obviously by apologising Cloud hopes also to relieve his own misgivings and absolve his own feelings of guilt concerning his past comments. At the end of the day we wouldn't seek to serve others if there was some inherent detrimental impact upon ourselves. The capacity to truly serve others while harming oneself is limited to only a few exceptional individuals in the history of civilisation. I guess what I am trying to say is Cloud's expression of an apology, regardless of his motivations for doing so, should be viewed as a step in the right direction.

That's some mighty fine VCE English right there.

[excal]

Sigh...

I seriously hope that everyone on here is not THAT gullible as to believe that this thread was started out of the goodness of his own heart.

Trying to get karma back. Once its back. Bang! Troll is back and the vicious cycle continues forever.

Example: Roflmao continuously, but he's a kid. But this from a guy going into year 12 is a bit of a joke tbh

I think Cloud deserves the benefit of the doubt here.
We are exposed to so many instances of individuals utilising the lack of identity and transparency over the internet to behave in a deplorable manner. Recently I found the acrimonious nature of some of the post-exams discussion thread quite disconcerting-with debate over discrepancies turning into personal vilification and displays of blatant arrogance. If some of these comments had been made in face to face interactions, there would have been serious repercussions. But sadly such instances seem commonplace and almost acceptable over the internet. The seclusion of identity on internet forums seems to predispose some individuals to relinquish accountability and responsibility for their actions, simply due to immunity from the consequences. Daniel could quite easily have been one of these people, but the fact is he apologised and went some way towards redemption by contributing positively to prospective Methods students on VN.

What this suggests to me is that Daniel genuinely regrets some of his past comments/actions and wishes to contribute to the community rather than hindering it. Consequently, I don't beleive that this apology was simply an opportunity to replenish his karma. It was merely an expression of feelings of guilt and a commitment to future improvement. Finally I beleive that regardless of Cloud's intentions, it is unfair to regard his apology with cynicism and doubt that 'it was from the goodness of his heart.' Obviously by apologising Cloud hopes also to relieve his own misgivings and absolve his own feelings of guilt concerning his past comments. At the end of the day we wouldn't seek to serve others if there was some inherent detrimental impact upon ourselves. The capacity to truly serve others while harming oneself is limited to only a few exceptional individuals in the history of civilisation. I guess what I am trying to say is Cloud's expression of an apology, regardless of his motivations for doing so, should be viewed as a step in the right direction.

He has continuously PMed various people asking for them to give him positive karma. That precedent does cast some doubt on the veracity your dissertation.

But seriously, who cares about it?

[shinny]

MY SESQUIPEDALIAN SENSES ARE TINGLING.

[chid]

MY SESQUIPEDALIAN SENSES ARE TINGLING.

Lol, well you know my context was conflict and I was writing persuasive so descending into VCE English came naturally...
but it's just my opinion based only on this thread (as Excalibur pointed out I'm not in possession of all the facts)

[AppleThief]

(Image removed from quote.)

-30 Karma for rickrolling?

Where's costargh's -30 karma??

[xox.happy1.xox]

MY SESQUIPEDALIAN SENSES ARE TINGLING.

Yay! That word makes another appearance! :smitten:

[lacoste]

this thread is unnecessary, its the actions that count not the words!

what sort of actions do you suggest? Helping others by putting up exams or something? his done that

I agree this thread isn't necessary, but only because what he did wasn't THAT over the top, its not like he shot somebody, he just trolled a bit, it kind of got escalated from that mod thread (and he got heaps of negative karma for it), I don't know about the rest of you but I actually thought it provided some decent entertainment (or atleast a break from the stereotypical thread/discussion)
And its also good to see him acknowledge what his done, and apologise for it (though he really didn't have to)

hey, does this mean everyone could be a troll; of annoyance etc. and then make a "i'm sorry" thread to redeem?  [i dont think so]

firstly not everyone is going to be a troll

secondly, why couldn't a troll redeem themselves by apologising and acknowleding what they did? Should they be punished forever?

im pretty sure he was being a 'troll', then later he posted the exams & then started trolling agian ..rickrolled etc.

ok, not everyone is going to troll its just a figure of speech.

they should not be punished forever?

[bubble sunglasses]

  someone fill me in on the rickroll plz. was it a particularly annoying one?

[xox.happy1.xox]

  someone fill me in on the rickroll plz. was it a particularly annoying one?

Most definitely!

I unfortunately clicked on the link, and it had a video of Rick Astley singing 'Never Gonna Give You Up', and the words keep appearing and you have to click 'ok' all the way through just to get it to stop (you can't even exit it manually, or turn the god forsaken volume down )... Then at the end it brings you to this whole other site, which I didn't bother to look at because I just wanted to get out!

Emotionally scarred now...

[shonakennedy]

i think people need to move on from the rick rolling. its just a harmless prank. if you havent been rick rolled at least 5 times in your teenage life then you must be living under a rock. lol jokes. all im saying is that its all harmless fun. and you have to admit that whoever invented the rick roll mad a sense of humor.

[psychlaw]

im pretty sure he was being a 'troll', then later he posted the exams & then started trolling agian ..rickrolled etc.

one thing. many other members have also posted rickrolls (though I admit his was a particularily annoying one). And as he said at the start he did it as a joke and didn't expect that type of negative reaction

they should not be punished forever?

You suggested it by saying "and then make a "i'm sorry" thread to redeem?  [i dont think so] " - I disagreed and said if people apologise they should be given a second chance.