The employment outcomes of Math graduates

[brendan]

http://www.graduatecareers.com.au/content/download/3465/14505/file/Grad%20Files%202007.pdf
http://www.austms.org.au/Job+opportunities
http://www.ms.unimelb.edu.au/~mscareer/profiles.html
http://www.maths.unsw.edu.au/statistics/futureugcareers.html
http://www.unisa.edu.au/maths/resources/Careers%20in%20Math_1.pdf
http://www.prospects.ac.uk/cms/ShowPage/Home_page/Main_menu___Research/Labour_market_information/Graduate_Market_Trends_2008/The_value_of_a_degree__Spring_08_/p!eXbeLdL

If anyone has any other links/info/anecdotes please post. Will be posting more as I find them.

[bturville]

haha, nice.

[brendan]

Median starting salaries for bachelor degree graduates aged less than 25 and in first full-time employment, 2007. Source: http://www.graduatecareers.com.au/content/view/full/24

$68,000      Dentistry
$56,500      Optometry
$51,000      Medicine
$50,000      Earth Sciences
$50,000      Engineering
$46,000      Education
$46,000      Mathematics
$45,000      Law
$44,000      Social Work
$43,200      Computer Science
$43,000      Paramedical Studies
$42,900      Physical Sciences
$42,000      Psychology
$41,000      Biological Sciences
$40,000      Accounting
$40,000      Agricultural Science
$40,000      Architecture & Building
$40,000      Economics, Business
$40,000      Veterinary Science
$39,400      Social Sciences
$38,000      Humanities
$35,000      Art & Design
$34,000      Pharmacy (pre-reg)

[AppleThief]

What does salary have to do with "employment opportunities"?

Also, any reason you've posted the exact same thing three times? (even reviving a five month-old thread to do so?)

[brendan]

What does salary have to do with "employment opportunities"?

Are you kidding me? You don't see the relation between starting salaries and employment outcomes?

[kurrymuncher]

46000 for mathematics, thats pretty good. I heard that mathematicians get paid next to nothing, is this true?

[rh]

no! haven't you been paying attention?! arts graduates get paid next to nothing!

[AppleThief]

What does salary have to do with "employment opportunities"?

Are you kidding me? You don't see the relation between starting salaries and employment outcomes?

So explain it to me.

no! haven't you been paying attention?! arts graduates get paid next to nothing!

Even though Education is higher than Maths!! Nice logic, yeah?

[humph]

Lolz.

They (in this case, UoM) always plug maths job opportunities through students who've done boring applied maths stuff and then conclude "See? It's relevant to the real world etc etc." What about employment opportunities for pure mathematicians? (read: anything other than being a lecturer/researcher/professor etc at a university.)

[rh]

perfect logic.

now lets all go enjoy a nice commerce degree and forget about all this arts nonsense.

[ninwa]

Starting salary = what you get paid on average when you graduate
Employment opportunities/outcomes = how likely you will get that starting salary

Higher starting salaries = more demand for the job = more likely you'll get employed? I don't know.

no! haven't you been paying attention?! arts graduates get paid next to nothing!

Even though Education is higher than Maths!! Nice logic, yeah?

I think rh was being sarcastic there (or I hope so ... )

[brendan]

What does salary have to do with "employment opportunities"?

Are you kidding me? You don't see the relation between starting salaries and employment outcomes?

So explain it to me

A frequent outcome of gaining employment is a ... salary!

[AppleThief]

no! haven't you been paying attention?! arts graduates get paid next to nothing!

Even though Education is higher than Maths!! Nice logic, yeah?

I think rh was being sarcastic there (or I hope so ... )

Yeah, I got that
Was poking fun at Brendan's "argument"

[ninwa]

MY BAD
*ninwa hides*

[AppleThief]

What does salary have to do with "employment opportunities"?

Are you kidding me? You don't see the relation between starting salaries and employment outcomes?

So explain it to me

A frequent outcome of gaining employment is a ... salary!

OMG REALLY?!

Relate that back to the opportunities. I still don't understand.

There are lots of opportunities to work at McDonald's, even though the pay is super-low.