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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2007, 07:40:33 pm »
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and besides, i don't think being an existentialist makes everything all pointless and futile. the whole thought that our lives will amount to nothing really emphasises the fact that we should enjoy our lives as well as negating all the petty little crap that plagues us.

basically, recognising that life will end and we're most likely alone in our existence forces us to treasure every moment that we have been incredibly lucky to have. (woot go the motivational speaking). i think that whole idea drives people to have fun and stuff, although keeping in mind the whole concept of bad faith (you can't be selfish and impinge on others' happiness in your own pursuit of happiness... happiness with an 'I', thank you very much)....... and rantrantrant..
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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2007, 07:41:13 pm »
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and well done, you've lured me into ranting... i REALLY should be physicsing right now.
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2007, 07:41:25 pm »
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I obviously don't know either way, but if there is a god or gods or whatever, then it's probably pretty irrelevant to our life, in this realm anyway. If there is a truly great god, he/she/it/they/whaterver will be fine with us not believing, if god is an arsehole and would really send otherwise 'good' people to hell, then they aren't worth the effort here.

Also, the notion of a god being all-powerful is a logical contradiction. Going by that, god would be able to do even the things that they cannot do. re: "Is god so powerful that he could microwave a burrito so hot that he couldn't eat it?"

I have more thoughts on this, but I'll probably add them later.
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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2007, 07:44:23 pm »
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someone said that they dont think they believe in a god but they don't want to believe that there's nothing.

yeah that's what i was saying before about us externalising our desires and calling it 'god'.
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« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2007, 07:44:47 pm »
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I obviously don't know either way, but if there is a god or gods or whatever, then it's probably pretty irrelevant to our life, in this realm anyway. If there is a truly great god, he/she/it/they/whaterver will be fine with us not believing, if god is an arsehole and would really send otherwise 'good' people to hell, then they aren't worth the effort here.

Also, the notion of a god being all-powerful is a logical contradiction. Going by that, god would be able to do even the things that they cannot do. re: "Is god so powerful that he could microwave a burrito so hot that he couldn't eat it?"

I have more thoughts on this, but I'll probably add them later.


ahahah at your last point.

anyway. i have the same kind of view as you of all that stuff.
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« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2007, 07:45:03 pm »
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and i like your burrito reference. LOL - that's gonna get me wondering all night.
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« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2007, 08:24:40 pm »
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and besides, i don't think being an existentialist makes everything all pointless and futile. the whole thought that our lives will amount to nothing really emphasises the fact that we should enjoy our lives as well as negating all the petty little crap that plagues us.

basically, recognising that life will end and we're most likely alone in our existence forces us to treasure every moment that we have been incredibly lucky to have. (woot go the motivational speaking). i think that whole idea drives people to have fun and stuff, although keeping in mind the whole concept of bad faith (you can't be selfish and impinge on others' happiness in your own pursuit of happiness... happiness with an 'I', thank you very much)....... and rantrantrant..


Completely agree with this rantrantrant. She speaks the word of truth!
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« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2007, 08:26:37 pm »
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Quote from: "Spirited Sloth"
and besides, i don't think being an existentialist makes everything all pointless and futile. the whole thought that our lives will amount to nothing really emphasises the fact that we should enjoy our lives as well as negating all the petty little crap that plagues us.

basically, recognising that life will end and we're most likely alone in our existence forces us to treasure every moment that we have been incredibly lucky to have. (woot go the motivational speaking). i think that whole idea drives people to have fun and stuff, although keeping in mind the whole concept of bad faith (you can't be selfish and impinge on others' happiness in your own pursuit of happiness... happiness with an 'I', thank you very much)....... and rantrantrant..


This sounds like a paragraph I read from the Look Both Ways Insight Guide. In fact, since you studied it.. it may just be :P
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« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2007, 08:28:40 pm »
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HAHAHAHAHA wellll..... i did read the "existentialism" section rather intensely........
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« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2007, 09:08:10 pm »
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[b]"Census figures show more Australians have no religion" 27/06/2007 [/b]

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The figures, released today, revealed that 3,706,557 Australians - or 19 per cent - said they had no religion on Census night last year, which was 3 percentage points more than the 2001 figure of 2,905,993.

And the number of people who said they were Anglican also decreased by nearly 175,000 since 2005 to 3,718,248.  

Christianity is still the dominant religion, with 12.7 million followers nationwide.  But as a proportion of the population, Christianity dipped from 71 per cent to 64 per cent.

The number of Buddhists has doubled to nearly 2 per cent of the population, while Hinduism has also doubled in popularity since 1996 to now account for 0.7 per cent.
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« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2007, 09:13:45 pm »
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The figures, released today, revealed that 3,706,557 Australians - or 19 per cent - said they had no religion on Census night last year, which was 3 percentage points more than the 2001 figure of 2,905,993.

And the number of people who said they were Anglican also decreased by nearly 175,000 since 2005 to 3,718,248.  

Christianity is still the dominant religion, with 12.7 million followers nationwide.  But as a proportion of the population, Christianity dipped from 71 per cent to 64 per cent.

The number of Buddhists has doubled to nearly 2 per cent of the population, while Hinduism has also doubled in popularity since 1996 to now account for 0.7 per cent.


Interesting. 64% is higher than I thought it would be
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« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2007, 09:20:43 pm »
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i read an article in the age today about how it was scientifically proven christians have more morals than atheists. *rolls eyes*
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« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2007, 09:24:25 pm »
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i read an article in the age today about how it was scientifically proven christians have more morals than atheists. *rolls eyes*


ha how can you scientifically measure that?
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« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2007, 09:26:34 pm »
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wow 64% is higher than i wouldve thought too hmm
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« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2007, 09:43:33 pm »
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you tell me. i was looking at it and scoffing the whole way through.
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