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Collin Li

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Re: Do you believe in god?
« Reply #375 on: December 14, 2007, 03:08:30 pm »
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Brendan never made a claim there is no God, he just says that there is no requirement for the existence of God to explain unexplained phenomena.

All of science is theory. It is always falsifiable, which is what makes it different to religion.

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Re: Do you believe in god?
« Reply #376 on: December 14, 2007, 03:08:47 pm »
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Start of creation is covered by the formation of elements via massive nuclear fusion, we see this is other galaxies constantly (though true, not the creation of life itself). Elements upon which life exist are present in the universe, condensing under gravity to form rock based planets. Single cell organism arise from basic chemical reactions of this rock based structures. These organisms adapted to their environment, adding desirable characteristics via allele mutations in gene pools.

This explains the existence of peppered moths
This explains the existence of vestigal structres such as the appendix

If we examine the peppered moth example, we can philosophically and biologically assess this issue (crudely). The peppered moth exists in England. During the industrial revoultion, trees became coated with black soot, spoiling the camouflage benefit the moth enjoyed, sheilding it from predators. A random mutation in the moths genetic make-up gave the moth a black coat, and a selective advantage over the peppered moth, the black moths quickly grew in population. This raises significant, current evidence for natrual selection, and there evolution

If you want to argue that god created the allele to help the moth, then why is AIDS rampant in the world. Surely if god
'fixed' the peppered moth to exist more easily in the world, then why not humans, the "prefered" and subservient species.
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Re: Do you believe in god?
« Reply #377 on: December 14, 2007, 03:09:04 pm »
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That doesn't prove that there IS a God, either. Nor does it prove that there is only one God, etc.
Sorry I don't know what your post is referring to. Soz =S

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Re: Do you believe in god?
« Reply #378 on: December 14, 2007, 03:10:37 pm »
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Brendan, what type of evidence can I provide? Seriously, you want me to ask God to send you an e-mail saying he is the creator of the world?

Then admit that you have no proof. Say that at the outset - Say "I have no proof, no objective, substantive or credible information to support my claims".

you can't provide me with real, convincing evidence that God doesn't exist too.

I never made the claim that a god or many gods do not exist. I challenge you to find a single instance where i have made such a claim to the effect there a god or many gods do not exist. On the other hand, you did make the claim that there exists a god or many gods.
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Re: Do you believe in god?
« Reply #379 on: December 14, 2007, 03:11:19 pm »
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lol I was referring to sheepz's post saying that it doesn't prove there isn't a God. But everyone replied too quickly :P

(btw I'm talking to costargh. Damn you ppl reply too fast LOL)
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Re: Do you believe in god?
« Reply #380 on: December 14, 2007, 03:11:33 pm »
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But where did we all come from? =P Where did the elements come from? (Sorry I'm no science head)
Thats what I am getting at.

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Re: Do you believe in god?
« Reply #381 on: December 14, 2007, 03:12:19 pm »
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By the logic we can also ask ... where did God come from?
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Re: Do you believe in god?
« Reply #382 on: December 14, 2007, 03:12:28 pm »
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But where did we all come from? =P Where did the elements come from? (Sorry I'm no science head)
Thats what I am getting at.

Why are you getting at that for? What does this have to do with the existence of a god or many gods?

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Re: Do you believe in god?
« Reply #383 on: December 14, 2007, 03:13:06 pm »
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So we come back to the start, where it all began.

We all know that we can not prove the existence of a God. We all know we can not prove the non-existence of a God. So whats the go?

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Re: Do you believe in god?
« Reply #384 on: December 14, 2007, 03:14:04 pm »
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the go is that AGNOSTIC IS BEST!!!! :D

(jk. don't take offence)
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Re: Do you believe in god?
« Reply #385 on: December 14, 2007, 03:14:35 pm »
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This fusion occurs in stars, Hydrogen is the intial and primary fuel

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Re: Do you believe in god?
« Reply #386 on: December 14, 2007, 03:16:13 pm »
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the go is that AGNOSTIC IS BEST!!!! :D

(jk. don't take offence)

Lol I agree =P

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Re: Do you believe in god?
« Reply #387 on: December 14, 2007, 03:16:47 pm »
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By the logic we can also ask ... where did God come from?

Yeh I said that in an earlier post. Its the idea that there is a 'higher being' that is not bound by the rules of the world =P. It's not my idea, its just an idea. And there is no proof for it or against it.

But where did we all come from? =P Where did the elements come from? (Sorry I'm no science head)
Thats what I am getting at.

Why are you getting at that for? What does this have to do with the existence of a god or many gods?

Maybe because it is the belief that it was Gods main role to create? Thus arguing the role of God in creation is ultimately arguing his existence.
Once again, no evidence =)

This fusion occurs in stars, Hydrogen is the intial and primary fuel
What made the hydrogen? =P
(hint: this will go on forever lol)
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Re: Do you believe in god?
« Reply #388 on: December 14, 2007, 03:18:23 pm »
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The Flying Spaghetti Monster God.

Prove me wrong.

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Re: Do you believe in god?
« Reply #389 on: December 14, 2007, 03:19:10 pm »
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The Flying Spaghetti Monster God.

Prove me wrong.

:P

HEY we share the same belief
=P