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Re: Java vs C++
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2008, 06:47:14 pm »
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A lot of things are moving to the web though... Even enterprise applications, about 40-50% of the enterprise applications at my workplace are web-based.

Very true - the concept of SaaS (Software as a Service) is become very real these days.

I'd learn Java first, then eventually learn C++ if need be. Java is easier, you don't have to mess around with pointers or memory management. It's simpler, and is rather safe to use, easy to debug etc. :)

Yep, I agree with this too. Once you've mastered Java, it's only a matter of learning how to manage your stacks and pointers.

If you haven't yet learnt Java, J2SE, they are simply different APIs, as J2EE apps are usually deployed in enterprise/web environments. J2SE for learning/client applications.

I am not sure if J2EE is missing anything from what is included with SE, perhaps some javax stuff is missing? dno

Essentially correct - the amount of packages that are available for you to use differ between SE and EE (and ME, for that matter). Java, as a language, is the same throughout. Most of the time, you will only need to use the stuf available in SE anyway (it's not like you'll be working with JavaBeans anytime soon).


But definitely move to C++ (and assembly, if you're keen) as it really get you into the nitty gritty bits of programming. And by doing this, you'll be aware of such issues when working with higher level languages (it will make you a better programmer all round). I'd say that after taking a semester subject in assembly, computer architecture and organisaiton, I have become 1000x better at programming.

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Re: Java vs C++
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2008, 06:48:32 pm »
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java, there is demand for java programmers in the IT industry if you plan to get a job there, although I don't know what the diff is between java and j2EE, excalibur could clear things out

None :)

EE just means a wider selection of packages - the language is essentially the same.

That said, there are extra concepts involved (beans etc).
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Re: Java vs C++
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2008, 06:53:03 am »
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Learn:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck

I learnt it one day, its soooooo goood
how about: http://aegis666.com/projects/rful/
or anything on http://esolangs.org/wiki/Language_list
my personal favourite http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare_%28programming_language%29

thnx guys, i think i'm gonna go Java for the now, maybe C++ later... that "mess around with pointers or memory management" sounds scary, i dnt want to stuff up my computer just yet :P

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Re: Java vs C++
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2008, 08:36:10 am »
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Nah...I introduced him to the RFUL =D
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