How much will full fee med at melb cost?

[doboman]

And BA22..I acknowledge it, im just saying it's unfair.

I know, and i used to think the same way too, but pragmatically speaking, full fee students keep my fees lower, so in a way i support them as i couldn't possibly afford to do the course

But i don't like the argument that John get a better ENTER than Jeff so he "deserves" a spot more than John, which is what the whole "unfair" argument is really based on, because it isn't that simple

And i definitely dont like the, Jeff has more money than John, so pick him instead.

It doesn't work like that

John and Jeff both must first equally miss out an a CSP spot

But Jeff luckily get another shot, and his money helps the uni fund more CSP spots so more johns have the opportunity to study med in an affordable manner

So John misses out b/c of financial issues, while the less achieving (umat, TER ect) Jeff makes it.

[BA22]

Yes, but you keep ignoring the pay-off

But jeff and john BOTH miss out, when they both apply for CSP spots they are equal. But johns need jeffs to ensure the course is affordable, it's not intentionally cold-hearted, it's just economics

[chid]

I'm eligible for the 'guaranteed' CSP place in post-graduate med because of my ENTER. (conditional on 75% average though)

How much would the CSP graduate med course be? Maybe $6-7000 per year?

[BA22]

I'm eligible for the 'guaranteed' CSP place in post-graduate med because of my ENTER. (conditional on 75% average though)

How much would the CSP graduate med course be? Maybe $6-7000 per year?

Congats on your spot!

Well, the undergraduate CSP for med is $8500 a year, so it's likely to be around that

[chid]

I'm eligible for the 'guaranteed' CSP place in post-graduate med because of my ENTER. (conditional on 75% average though)

How much would the CSP graduate med course be? Maybe $6-7000 per year?

Congats on your spot!

Well, the undergraduate CSP for med is $8500 a year, so it's likely to be around that

Thanks BA22.

[orsel]

So John misses out b/c of financial issues, while the less achieving (umat, TER ect) Jeff makes it.

Why bother raising the point, actually?

I know this will sound cynical, but both the umat and TER systems are pretty flawed when it comes to selecting the 'best' doctors(however you define that); at most I suppose they can select a smarter cohort. So why not throw in financial circumstances into the mix, its not like this is a case where if you remove full-fee places, suddenly all med students will become awesomesauce.

After all, the issue of who is more 'deserving' to study medicine is based mainly on the individual's level of passion, which unfortunately is a quality that cannot be 100% accurately assessed.

[darlok]

did you go to LHS?

[Red_x_Lily]

is it fair that a person with a 99.XX misses out on medicine, because he/she are unable to pay of the MASSIVE fee for medicine?

Is it fair that a person misses out on a ferrari because they are unable to pay 200k+? It's not like banning Bond Uni from offering full-fee med degrees is going to make any difference to the person who couldn't get a CSP place.

We offer people a better chance to med than any other country in the world i would argue

I am not so sure about that given the very high ENTER scores required due to restriction on the number of medical places that universities can offer due to government quotas.

I agree with BA22, australia offers the best opportunity to do MED. In asian countries (where the population is way bigger and seats are same as in australia) the competition is like a billion times harder.

Atleast australia offers rural and bonded schemes plus flexible post grad options

I agree, a least in Australia it's fairer. In some countries, also, children of diplomatic personnel are given the highest priority for entry. It's absolutely unfair to those who actually got the marks to do their course. This, unfortunately, tends to happen in Sri Lanka.

[roly182]

did you go to LHS?

Yeah! How come?

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[BA22]

It probably looks feasible on paper, but not every parent can afford to have a child at home that does not contribute. The fees of the course are not the only expense.

Plus you can't work enough to earn the required money to pay off the debt. FEE-HELP allows $100,000 to be borrowed to contribute to the fees, but that leaves you at least $60,000 to earn, which is very difficult to acheive whilst paying for everyday expenses and extra expenses of the course

[BA22]

Yeh, it's not the $100,000 of FEE-HELP that's a problem, its the other $60,000 + textbooks etc. These expenses need to be paid before you graduate and make money from the course

[wallah11]

http://www.futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/fees/aust/subject-fees.html#ug

graduate med is $18700 per year at Melbourne

FEE HELP for med dent or vet science is $102000

[squance]

Yeh, it's not the $100,000 of FEE-HELP that's a problem, its the other $60,000 + textbooks etc. These expenses need to be paid before you graduate and make money from the course

Whats the other $60000 for?

[BA22]

Never mind, i was wrong

I assumed that the undergraduate full fee was the same as the graduate one