For prospective law students ...

[xox.happy1.xox]

I think she just means as electives?

[Eriny]

oh okay. i've heard about having to write essays though...maybe that's only during the exams? or not hah

Haha no essays during the year at Monash, might be different at other unis. 10% of your mark is tutorial participation and 90% is your exam, that's all, no assignments or anything

MASSIVE essays for your exam though but they're not essays like VCE English essays, they're more like really really REALLY extended responses.

I don't think the exam is weighed as heavily in most ANU law courses, but everyone has to write an essay sometime during the semester. Also, I think there might be a mid-semester exam for some subjects, which is redeemable at the end-of-semester if you phailed.

so it is not like arts where you have research essays and other assignments totalling 50% and exam components comprising 50% of the unit?

I'm not sure what you mean. Many arts subjects don't have exams at all and your grade is derived entirely from essays and participation and usually when arts subjects do have exams, it's worth about 40% of the total mark or even less.

[*Roxxii*]

are u doing law next yr roxxii?

I'm doing Commerce, majoring in Accounting and Finance.
To get accreditation for CA (Chartered Accountant) I need to complete those 3 law subjects

I'm really scared I'll suck at it, and they'll bring the average of my marks down 
There's even a chance that i'll fail them

[AppleXY]

are u doing law next yr roxxii?

I'm doing Commerce, majoring in Accounting and Finance.
To get accreditation for CA (Chartered Accountant) I need to complete those 3 law subjects

I'm really scared I'll suck at it, and they'll bring the average of my marks down 
There's even a chance that i'll fail them

Nahh, no way amy. I have confidence you'll do well,  remember nothing is impossible.

[xox.happy1.xox]

are u doing law next yr roxxii?

I'm doing Commerce, majoring in Accounting and Finance.
To get accreditation for CA (Chartered Accountant) I need to complete those 3 law subjects

I'm really scared I'll suck at it, and they'll bring the average of my marks down 
There's even a chance that i'll fail them

Nahh, no way amy. I have confidence you'll do well,  remember nothing is impossible.

Have that confidence in yourself too, Prav.

[ninwa]

Do you know if Business law, Australian company law and Taxation law @ Monash is anything like that?

I'm pretty sure you don't read nearly as many cases like that. Contract law is just one part of subjects like business law, which aren't actually handled by the law faculty I believe. Taxation law is apparently a bitch and nobody likes it don't know about Australian company law.

gahh. is this supposed to scare the shit out of me?
but i suppose looking at it closely, and less in a overwhelmed state it isn't so bad.

NO!
It really isn't that bad. You get used to it. Plus your lecturers give you summaries of cases, which are easier to read. And you have textbooks, which also summarise the main principles in the cases. You're not going to be figuring things out on your own

[xox.happy1.xox]

All this stuff is too exciting! I can't wait to start law! How would we go about choosing subjects, though?

[vce01]

^good question. excited about doing it myself also, except im quite happy with the holidays at the moment and would like it never to end...

[brendan]

And this is all you have been doing? As in, reading cases, making notes etc - nothing different?

That pretty much sums up 3 years of law school.

All this stuff is too exciting! I can't wait to start law! How would we go about choosing subjects, though?

If you want to be a lawyer, for the first 2/3 of your course, you don't choose at all. The other 1/3 you pick according to your interests that you will find out later.

are u doing law next yr roxxii?

I'm doing Commerce, majoring in Accounting and Finance.
To get accreditation for CA (Chartered Accountant) I need to complete those 3 law subjects

I'm really scared I'll suck at it, and they'll bring the average of my marks down 
There's even a chance that i'll fail them

You will be fine.

[Noblesse]

*mega bump*

Just started case law today in PBL
Really enjoyed reading through the cases (we only read the summaries and 'abridged' versions of the cases in class, I read the whole things on Austlii (NERD))

I'm worried I made a mistake choosing commerce lol (jk, seriously though, accounting is soo boring this semester)

EDIT: hehe I know, I know, I would probably feel much differently about reading through full cases if I had 10+ to read a week. I think I'll stick with Accouting for now

[sxcalexc]

How are you (people that are doing law that posted in this thread) finding law now? Has there been much change from the regular casebooks? I'm interested in transferring to a double degree including law next year.

[ninwa]

I'm finding it very interesting now that I'm doing torts and criminal law (two of the easiest and probably most interesting law subjects). Ask me again when I'm doing taxation law and the answer will be v v different

Has there been much change from the regular casebooks?

What do you mean?

[lacoste]

1. What are the job opportunities and 2. also the prospect of attaining a job in law?

I've heard that the employment isn't that bright in law knowing that there are a great number of students graduating from law each year from Monash.

3. What sets you apart from being the brighter law student than majority of them?


Thanks very much!

[ninwa]

1. A law degree opens a lot of doors. You definitely don't have to be a lawyer. Maybe you can list some careers you're interested in and I'll tell you if a law degree is useful?

2. If you want a job in the legal industry then it gets a bit harder. Because of the sheer amount of law graduates each year it is very very competitive, to the point where the top and middle tier law firms, when taking seasonal clerkship applications, will not even consider those who don't have a distinction average or higher.

And to give you a rough idea of how difficult it is to even get a D: I have had several lecturers saying that it is practically impossible to get 90+ in a law subject, and I have a friend doing an elective subject whose lecturer told them that he was only allowed to award 1 or 2 HDs - this was in a class of about 70 people. This is because a lot of law subjects (the core subjects, I think) don't have a quota for each grade. If a class happens to be dumb one year it's possible nobody will get HD/D.

3. Sorry, don't know the answer to this one because I'm one of the "majority of them"

[lacoste]

1.
* Becoming a CEO of a company, preferably a large company.
* Politician
* Mad Scientist (lol)
* hmm, there must be more but can't think of any that could relate or not to law degree

2. Ohhh okay. Law is very very very very very very x1000000 competitive. Being a lawyer for the one of the Big 4 would be almost impossible if you didnt have average of D then.

3. Hmmm idk. lols, you must be the brighter one to be answering those q's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1