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« on: February 17, 2009, 05:10:36 pm »
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Are you people insane? Israel are the #1 perpetrators of discriminating people because of where they come from. The chances of an ARAB visiting Israel are ZERO. My friend is Palestinian and the amount of shit he had o go through TO GET TO HIS OWN COUNTRY is ridiculous, and that's with an Australian passport.


To be frank, there are worse countries than Israel when it comes to freedom of movement (of the 'state enemy' class). Think Zimbabwe, Somalia, North Korea...

And, there are Arabs in Israel - what are you smoking?




Dude,  Israelites see themselves superior when compared to all other nations. Realise the truth!. It is not any tom dick & harry saying this, it's in the torah! (not the original script- the bible & torah were changed according to peoples views).

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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2009, 05:23:30 pm »
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Are you people insane? Israel are the #1 perpetrators of discriminating people because of where they come from. The chances of an ARAB visiting Israel are ZERO. My friend is Palestinian and the amount of shit he had o go through TO GET TO HIS OWN COUNTRY is ridiculous, and that's with an Australian passport.


To be frank, there are worse countries than Israel when it comes to freedom of movement (of the 'state enemy' class). Think Zimbabwe, Somalia, North Korea...

And, there are Arabs in Israel - what are you smoking?




Dude,  Israelites see themselves superior when compared to all other nations. Realise the truth!. It is not any tom dick & harry saying this, it's in the torah! (not the original script- the bible & torah were changed according to peoples views).

And the Koran doesn't say the same for Muslims...?

Prostelysing is pretty much in any religion you turn to.
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2009, 06:52:06 pm »
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Dude,  Israelites see themselves superior when compared to all other nations. Realise the truth!. It is not any tom dick & harry saying this, it's in the torah! (not the original script- the bible & torah were changed according to peoples views).
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Israelites? are you referring to the Jews of today? or Israeli's maybe?  I'm a secular Jew and I don't see myself as better than anyone because of their religion or nation, but I see myself as better than racist scum like yourself.   According to the bible Jews are the "chosen people". However, the vast majority  of  Jews have never used this as a justification to discriminate others.  The UAE is the Country not permitting in another individual because of their nationality not Israel. So, Shut the fuck up

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2009, 09:17:02 am »
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I'm just amused that gfb can claim that Jews claim superiority as dictated in the Torah (I'm not sure of the veracity of this assertion), yet neglects to mention the Muslim version as in the Koran.

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Indeed those who are opposing Allah and His Messenger are bound to be humiliated. The Almighty has ordained: ‘‘I and My Messengers shall always prevail’’. Indeed Allah is Mighty and Powerful.

Apparently, a justification for a Jewish/Arab conflict centuries ago.

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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2009, 01:35:03 pm »
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I can recommend a few enlightening history books on the middle ages... so many ignorant people out there

 who's ignorant?

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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2009, 02:28:01 pm »
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I can recommend a few enlightening history books on the middle ages... so many ignorant people out there

 who's ignorant?

Apparently, we all need to 'realise the truth!'*.

* acts like gfb preaching anti-semitism
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2009, 07:57:42 pm »
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Are you people insane? Israel are the #1 perpetrators of discriminating people because of where they come from. The chances of an ARAB visiting Israel are ZERO. My friend is Palestinian and the amount of shit he had o go through TO GET TO HIS OWN COUNTRY is ridiculous, and that's with an Australian passport.


To be frank, there are worse countries than Israel when it comes to freedom of movement (of the 'state enemy' class). Think Zimbabwe, Somalia, North Korea...

And, there are Arabs in Israel - what are you smoking?




Dude,  Israelites see themselves superior when compared to all other nations. Realise the truth!. It is not any tom dick & harry saying this, it's in the torah! (not the original script- the bible & torah were changed according to peoples views).

And the Koran doesn't say the same for Muslims...?

Prostelysing is pretty much in any religion you turn to.

No. The Holy Quran does not state anything that critisizes any other religion or sees muslims superior compared to others. It is just the way YOU people want to understand things. The media for example crops certain verses and uses it for evidence (yet to only fool themselves and a certain portion of readers- the ones that generally can't speak for themselves or have any other point to make. Regurgitating is the word, yes yes.

Torah - Deuteronomy 5:6–21

You shall not kill. 

Why do they kill?
I can recommend a few enlightening history books on the middle ages... so many ignorant people out there

 who's ignorant?

Apparently, we all need to 'realise the truth!'*.

* acts like gfb preaching anti-semitism

Yes, Excalibur, I hear and see your endless efforts in trying to act like me. Your sense of humour is wonderful, so wonderful.
Quite frankly, I would have nightmares if I tried acting like you. You would be a great lawyer or simply somebody that doesn't have there own say-without the influence/fear of OTHERS .
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2009, 08:14:37 pm »
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But doesn't the Koran say:

"O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54"


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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2009, 08:32:44 pm »
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But doesn't the Koran say:

"O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54"



It really says that? Man thats pretty low.

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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2009, 08:33:47 pm »
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But doesn't the Koran say:

"O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54"




It really says that? Man thats pretty low.


I concur

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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2009, 09:13:10 pm »
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But doesn't the Koran say:

"O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54"



This is a very famous, and most misunderstood verse.
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2009, 09:25:56 pm »
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"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts." Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b


"The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor the dog more than the non-Jew." Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 3

"It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah." Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5

"Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God." Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772

Then what are these?

Compared to this ( those who were insulting islam should read it) -    Quoted from harunyahya.com

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ISLAM'S ACCEPTANCE OF JUDAISM AND CHRISTIANITY
We are living in an era in which the world is desperately in need of peace, friendship, and solidarity. The tensions and conflicts that so defined the twentieth century continue in this new century, and innocent people all around the world continue to suffer from them.
 
Despite the urgent need for solidarity and cooperation, certain circles are inciting conflict, particularly conflict between the world's two greatest and deep-rooted civilizations. This issue needs to be scrutinized, as the war of civilizations that they envisage would have disastrous consequences for humanity. One of the best ways of preventing such a disaster is to strengthen the dialogue and cooperation between these civilizations. This is not a hard task, as there are no fundamental differences between Islam and the Judeo-Christian western world. To the contrary, there is much common ground between them. Considering the current situation and the nature of the world's problems, these shared values will make the cooperation necessary for solving them possible.
 
Today, ideological struggles continue to divide the world. However, Muslims are not at one pole and Jews and Christians are not at the opposing pole. In fact, one pole represents people who believe in God's existence and unity, and the other pole represents the unbelievers, who believe in such anti-religious ideologies as materialism and Darwinism. There is only one way to defeat the alliance of the various groups of unbelievers on an ideological level: eradicate the negative and destructive influences of anti-religious materialism and further the cause of a society dominated by morality, happiness, tranquility, security, and prosperity. This will be done by forming an alliance of all conscientious people, namely, sincere Christians, along with religious Jews and Muslims, who will come together and unite in this common cause.
 
There have been conflicts and disputes between members of these three religions in the past, but those were the result of the erroneous reasoning and evil motives of certain states, nations, and individuals who pursued their own economic and political gain instead of the central beliefs of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. One of the common aims of these divinely revealed religions is to ensure the happiness, security, peace, and tranquility of all people by opposing conflict.
 
Therefore, this dialogue and alliance will be based on the sincere believers' quest for justice, peace, and support for all people. The resulting dialogue will not be restricted to meetings and conferences, but will cement an alliance between people who advocate common values, fight for the same cause, and seek permanent solutions to common problems.
 
Muslims, Christians, and Jews have common principles of faith, worship, and moral values and face common dangers. Thus, the People of the Book (Christians and Jews) are called on to unite with Muslims as fellow believers opposed to atheism, anti-religiosity, and social as well as moral degeneration. All Jews, Christians, and Muslims who are sincere, conscientious, tolerant, helpful, conciliatory, reasonable, virtuous, peaceful, and fair to recognize that we believe in the same God and strive to live and extend the reach of God's morality, should spread this virtue around the world.
 
We Muslims love and respect Prophets Moses (pbuh) and Jesus (pbuh), know that they are loved and dear people in God's presence, and believe in all His Prophets. Furthermore, we respect Jewish and Christian beliefs, values, and traditions, for God commands us to invite the People of the Book to "unite on a common premise":
 
Say: "O People of the Book! Come to a proposition that is the same for us and you-that we should worship none but God, not associate any partners with Him, and not take one another as lords besides God." If they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims." (Qur'an, 3:64)
 
Muslims are people who believe in the Qur'an revealed to Prophet Muhammad (may God bless him and grant him peace) as well as in the earlier divinely revealed books: the Pages of Abraham (pbuh), the Torah revealed to Moses (pbuh), the Book of Psalms revealed to David (pbuh), and the Bible revealed to Jesus (pbuh). However, over time these books were tampered with and therefore contain both accurate (e.g., belief in God, virtue, the Day of Judgment, and the rejection of idolatry), and inaccurate information. Some of the verses read:
 
He has sent down the Book to you with truth, confirming what was there before it. And He sent down the Torah and the Gospel. (Qur'an, 3:3-4)
 
We sent down the Torah containing guidance and light, and the Prophets who had submitted themselves gave judgment by it for the Jews?as did their scholars and their rabbis?by what they had been allowed to preserve of God's Book, to which they were witnesses. (Qur'an, 5:44)
 
God states that the People of the Book are believers as thus:
 
They are not all the same. There is a community among the People of the Book who are upright. They recite God's Signs throughout the night, and they prostrate. They believe in God and the Last Day, enjoin the right and forbid the wrong, and compete in doing good. They are among the righteous. You will not be denied the reward for any good thing you do. God knows those who guard against evil. (Qur'an, 3:113-15)
 
Among the People of the Book are some who believe in God and in what has been sent down to you and what was sent down to them, and who are humble before God. They do not sell God's Signs for a paltry price. Such people will have their reward with their Lord. And God is swift at reckoning. (Qur'an, 3:199)
 
Therefore, a Muslim's attitude toward the People of the Book reflects the probable existence of genuinely faithful people among them. Only God knows the hearts of people, and He reveals that some Jews and Christians have earned His good pleasure.
 
God reveals that He has created a way and a method for all nations. Throughout history, He has sent Prophets to people to inform them of His laws, commands, and prohibitions. Essentially, all Prophets have invited their nations to believe in and worship God and to abide by the limits
He has established for humanity. In other words, all true religions in their original state are based on the principles of not associating others with Him and of working to win His good pleasure, compassion, and Paradise. All nations are expected to follow God's will without fail and to do good deeds in order to earn His reward:
 
We have appointed a law and a practice for every one of you. Had God willed, He would have made you a single community, but He wanted to test you regarding what has come to you. So, compete with each other in doing good. Every one of you will return to God, and He will inform you regarding the things about which you differed. (Qur'an, 5:48)
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2009, 09:33:54 pm »
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"And, there are Arabs in Israel - what are you smoking?"

Dude, that's cause they took their land, exterminated and expelled hundreds of thousands of Palestinians (arabs). There's bound to be some left :)
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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2009, 09:43:08 pm »
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"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts." Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b


"The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor the the dog more than the non-Jew." Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30

Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therfore he will be served by animals in human form." Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855

"A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal." Coschen hamischpat 405
"The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs." Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b
"It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah." Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5

"Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God." Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772

Then what are these?

Compared to this ( those who were insulting islam should read it) -    Quoted from harunyahya.com

Quote
ISLAM'S ACCEPTANCE OF JUDAISM AND CHRISTIANITY
We are living in an era in which the world is desperately in need of peace, friendship, and solidarity. The tensions and conflicts that so defined the twentieth century continue in this new century, and innocent people all around the world continue to suffer from them.
 
Despite the urgent need for solidarity and cooperation, certain circles are inciting conflict, particularly conflict between the world's two greatest and deep-rooted civilizations. This issue needs to be scrutinized, as the war of civilizations that they envisage would have disastrous consequences for humanity. One of the best ways of preventing such a disaster is to strengthen the dialogue and cooperation between these civilizations. This is not a hard task, as there are no fundamental differences between Islam and the Judeo-Christian western world. To the contrary, there is much common ground between them. Considering the current situation and the nature of the world's problems, these shared values will make the cooperation necessary for solving them possible.
 
Today, ideological struggles continue to divide the world. However, Muslims are not at one pole and Jews and Christians are not at the opposing pole. In fact, one pole represents people who believe in God's existence and unity, and the other pole represents the unbelievers, who believe in such anti-religious ideologies as materialism and Darwinism. There is only one way to defeat the alliance of the various groups of unbelievers on an ideological level: eradicate the negative and destructive influences of anti-religious materialism and further the cause of a society dominated by morality, happiness, tranquility, security, and prosperity. This will be done by forming an alliance of all conscientious people, namely, sincere Christians, along with religious Jews and Muslims, who will come together and unite in this common cause.
 
There have been conflicts and disputes between members of these three religions in the past, but those were the result of the erroneous reasoning and evil motives of certain states, nations, and individuals who pursued their own economic and political gain instead of the central beliefs of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. One of the common aims of these divinely revealed religions is to ensure the happiness, security, peace, and tranquility of all people by opposing conflict.
 
Therefore, this dialogue and alliance will be based on the sincere believers' quest for justice, peace, and support for all people. The resulting dialogue will not be restricted to meetings and conferences, but will cement an alliance between people who advocate common values, fight for the same cause, and seek permanent solutions to common problems.
 
Muslims, Christians, and Jews have common principles of faith, worship, and moral values and face common dangers. Thus, the People of the Book (Christians and Jews) are called on to unite with Muslims as fellow believers opposed to atheism, anti-religiosity, and social as well as moral degeneration. All Jews, Christians, and Muslims who are sincere, conscientious, tolerant, helpful, conciliatory, reasonable, virtuous, peaceful, and fair to recognize that we believe in the same God and strive to live and extend the reach of God's morality, should spread this virtue around the world.
 
We Muslims love and respect Prophets Moses (pbuh) and Jesus (pbuh), know that they are loved and dear people in God's presence, and believe in all His Prophets. Furthermore, we respect Jewish and Christian beliefs, values, and traditions, for God commands us to invite the People of the Book to "unite on a common premise":
 
Say: "O People of the Book! Come to a proposition that is the same for us and you-that we should worship none but God, not associate any partners with Him, and not take one another as lords besides God." If they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims." (Qur'an, 3:64)
 
Muslims are people who believe in the Qur'an revealed to Prophet Muhammad (may God bless him and grant him peace) as well as in the earlier divinely revealed books: the Pages of Abraham (pbuh), the Torah revealed to Moses (pbuh), the Book of Psalms revealed to David (pbuh), and the Bible revealed to Jesus (pbuh). However, over time these books were tampered with and therefore contain both accurate (e.g., belief in God, virtue, the Day of Judgment, and the rejection of idolatry), and inaccurate information. Some of the verses read:
 
He has sent down the Book to you with truth, confirming what was there before it. And He sent down the Torah and the Gospel. (Qur'an, 3:3-4)
 
We sent down the Torah containing guidance and light, and the Prophets who had submitted themselves gave judgment by it for the Jews?as did their scholars and their rabbis?by what they had been allowed to preserve of God's Book, to which they were witnesses. (Qur'an, 5:44)
 
God states that the People of the Book are believers as thus:
 
They are not all the same. There is a community among the People of the Book who are upright. They recite God's Signs throughout the night, and they prostrate. They believe in God and the Last Day, enjoin the right and forbid the wrong, and compete in doing good. They are among the righteous. You will not be denied the reward for any good thing you do. God knows those who guard against evil. (Qur'an, 3:113-15)
 
Among the People of the Book are some who believe in God and in what has been sent down to you and what was sent down to them, and who are humble before God. They do not sell God's Signs for a paltry price. Such people will have their reward with their Lord. And God is swift at reckoning. (Qur'an, 3:199)
 
Therefore, a Muslim's attitude toward the People of the Book reflects the probable existence of genuinely faithful people among them. Only God knows the hearts of people, and He reveals that some Jews and Christians have earned His good pleasure.
 
God reveals that He has created a way and a method for all nations. Throughout history, He has sent Prophets to people to inform them of His laws, commands, and prohibitions. Essentially, all Prophets have invited their nations to believe in and worship God and to abide by the limits
He has established for humanity. In other words, all true religions in their original state are based on the principles of not associating others with Him and of working to win His good pleasure, compassion, and Paradise. All nations are expected to follow God's will without fail and to do good deeds in order to earn His reward:
 
We have appointed a law and a practice for every one of you. Had God willed, He would have made you a single community, but He wanted to test you regarding what has come to you. So, compete with each other in doing good. Every one of you will return to God, and He will inform you regarding the things about which you differed. (Qur'an, 5:48)

What's your point? are you claiming because the Talmud (you previously said the Torah) contains derogatory things about gentiles (non-Jews) all Jews must believe it? I'm a Jew and I certainly don't.

You are quick to slander Israel and Jews yet you are silent about the treatment of some countries run by Fundamentalist Islam. What about the 13 year old girl stoned to death last year after she herself was raped. Is this acceptable? It's hard to take criticism from some Muslims in Australia when they are so quick to criticise  Israel  (sometime with good reason) yet remain silent about the countless injustices taking place in many Islamic countries around the world.  Islam is a religion of peace, so why are so many Muslims including yourself GFB so hesitant to criticise immoral acts taking place in the name of Islam. So please
Shut The Fuck Up

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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2009, 09:47:31 pm »
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"And, there are Arabs in Israel - what are you smoking?"

Dude, that's cause they took their land, exterminated and expelled hundreds of thousands of Palestinians (arabs). There's bound to be some left :)


Israel has upheld a higher moral standard then all other Arab countries in the Middle East. They provide rights for Arab citizens far beyond those extended to Jews in Arab countries.