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« Reply #240 on: July 19, 2009, 10:39:00 pm »
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TT,
in an acid and base hydrolysis reaction,
how would we know whether the acid or the base reaction did predominate
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« Reply #241 on: July 19, 2009, 10:42:37 pm »
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TT,
in an acid and base hydrolysis reaction,
how would we know whether the acid or the base reaction did predominate
What you on about?
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« Reply #242 on: July 19, 2009, 10:43:39 pm »
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acid base question
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« Reply #243 on: July 19, 2009, 10:45:29 pm »
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"...acid or the base reaction did predominate" ????

Is that alien language? It doesn't make sense dude
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« Reply #244 on: July 19, 2009, 10:47:41 pm »
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Predominate: To gain power or control over something (i.e is it Freedom or a Sutherland)

EDIT: I really hope they wont use that language in the exam, id need a dictionary
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« Reply #245 on: July 19, 2009, 10:48:35 pm »
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okay sorry.
Q. asks to write an hydrolysis reaction to 4 substances.
part B says "Does acid or base reaction predominate?"
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« Reply #246 on: July 19, 2009, 10:50:33 pm »
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so i wanna ask how do we know answer to part b
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« Reply #247 on: July 19, 2009, 10:53:12 pm »
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depends on the strength of the acid and base undergoing the reaction.
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« Reply #248 on: July 19, 2009, 11:17:01 pm »
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how do you calculate the concentration of [H30+] in 0.1M hydrochloric acid
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« Reply #249 on: July 19, 2009, 11:17:35 pm »
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« Reply #250 on: July 19, 2009, 11:19:46 pm »
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whats the calculation process though?
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« Reply #251 on: July 19, 2009, 11:22:26 pm »
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There's a 3% chance that I'm right.
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« Reply #252 on: July 19, 2009, 11:26:27 pm »
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There's a 3% chance that I'm right.
Is that 3% chance at best?
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« Reply #253 on: July 20, 2009, 03:04:56 pm »
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Since K is large, we assume (almost) complete reaction, hence all of HCl is converted to H+.

You can generalize this for all strong acids (HF, HCl, HNO3, H2SO4 [first ionisation only]...)
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« Reply #254 on: July 20, 2009, 04:29:50 pm »
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1. The following equilibrium is established when solutions of and are mixed.



is colourless. is colourless. is deep red.

The solution is diluted with an equal volume of water. The colour becomes paler red, the addition of the water has caused "concentration and the number of moles of to decrease.

[The bolded is the answer]

Now I understand this perfectly but it's just when I start to think more deeply (and perhaps more than I need to) that I get confused.

First is adding water will dilute the solution hence concentration of the entire solution decreases but shouldn't the system NOT partially oppose this change? Because the left hand side has 2 molecules but can't the right hand side also be considered to have 2 molecules? Since is in (aq) it is the same as saying (aq) and (aq)? [Just like how in water (aq) is the same as (aq) (aq) but it is just we are lazy so we don't need to write them separately?] So since there are the same number of molecules, the system would do nothing to oppose the change?

Secondly, how does the mole of decrease? I know the concentration decreases because the solution is diluted by adding more water. So let be the respective mol, concentration and volume of when the water is not added. Now let be the respective mol, concentration and volume of when the water is added.
Looking , the concentration is a number and is the initial volume which again is a number, but once the water is added decreases to and increases to , so how do you determine whether now is smaller than or larger? You don't know how much decrease or increased so you can't find out whether the final mol is larger or smaller than the original?
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