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Post by: Cyka on November 09, 2017, 09:16:12 am
Post by: LifeisaConstantStruggle on November 09, 2017, 09:16:36 am
Post by: Ahmad_A_1999 on November 09, 2017, 09:35:52 am
Calling it now, it's gonna screw us harder than that last question in exam 1
Nooooooo I need it to save my study score hahahaha I failed exam 1
Post by: Cyka on November 09, 2017, 09:44:02 am
Post by: Willba99 on November 09, 2017, 02:08:47 pm
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Post by: Sine on November 09, 2017, 02:10:43 pm
Post by: Willba99 on November 09, 2017, 02:13:33 pm
how was it guys?
That was legitimately putrid. The step up from last year to this year is nuts
Post by: True Dat on November 09, 2017, 02:17:54 pm
Post by: captkirk on November 09, 2017, 02:19:31 pm
Post by: peterpiper on November 09, 2017, 02:19:51 pm
Post by: Ahmad_A_1999 on November 09, 2017, 02:28:02 pm
My ass hurts after than rip 40ss
Well I honestly got 10% on that, so my 40s gone :(
What in the actual fuck was that
Post by: Lethal Sauce on November 09, 2017, 02:28:48 pm
Post by: KyalSharpe on November 09, 2017, 02:30:47 pm
Ranked 2 in an average cohort
Post by: captkirk on November 09, 2017, 02:33:01 pm
So what's a 24/40 and 55-57/80 gonna get me :(
Ranked 2 in an average cohort
I'd say 33-35
Post by: Syedali_ on November 09, 2017, 02:33:17 pm
Post by: Lethal Sauce on November 09, 2017, 02:33:39 pm
Post by: appleandbee on November 09, 2017, 02:35:34 pm
Commiserations to everyone who was disappointed with the exam, if it's any the consolation the A+ will most likely be lower.
Post by: Willba99 on November 09, 2017, 02:38:39 pm
Post by: Sine on November 09, 2017, 02:39:58 pm
That was legitimately putrid. The step up from last year to this year is nutswow must've been hard considering last year was probably the hardest year(e1 and e2 combined) in the past 20 years
Post by: peterpiper on November 09, 2017, 02:41:56 pm
How'd everyone go with the question that asked for the angle between the tangents at x=0 for g(x) and its inverse? My brain seriously hurt when trying to do that...
I just did the angle between two lines thingo formula. Idk if it was right though since I got like sqrt(3)/2 lol
*O man I fucked it up*
Post by: Ahmad_A_1999 on November 09, 2017, 02:42:50 pm
wow must've been hard considering last year was probably the hardest year(e1 and e2 combined) in the past 20 years
Well when I did last years exams in timed conditions I got 39/40 on exam 1 and maybe 70/80 on exam 2, I honestly got 10/80 today :( I don't know what happened
Post by: captkirk on November 09, 2017, 02:44:28 pm
wow must've been hard considering last year was probably the hardest year(e1 and e2 combined) in the past 20 years
Oh trust me, it was much harder then last years.
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Post by: Syedali_ on November 09, 2017, 02:47:01 pm
am i the only one who found it decent?
Waiting for someone to post “it was easy”
wait no more
Post by: captkirk on November 09, 2017, 02:48:58 pm
:( That felt much harder than the practice exams that I did at home and also where did g1 come from? they did not mention it ANYWHERE? that threw me off answering the last questions
I spent more then 10 minutes trying to find "g1" couldn't find it... glad I wasn't the only one who couldn't see where g1 came from
Post by: TooLazy on November 09, 2017, 02:49:16 pm
:( That felt much harder than the practice exams that I did at home and also where did g1 come from? they did not mention it ANYWHERE? that threw me off answering the last questionsFor g1 you had to sub 1 into k,
it was still the same function
Post by: ZNormal on November 09, 2017, 02:50:08 pm
:( That felt much harder than the practice exams that I did at home and also where did g1 come from? they did not mention it ANYWHERE? that threw me off answering the last questions
G1 you replace k with 1 im pretty sure
Post by: qweasdie5 on November 09, 2017, 02:51:13 pm
Who used the theta from tan theta to work out the y co-ordinate of P1? For the Ferris wheel question....
Yep, sure did!
Post by: jazzycab on November 09, 2017, 02:53:12 pm
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xomM33jx7QvY7CAnnErVjaOJYhk9Bzcb
Post by: Syndicate on November 09, 2017, 02:57:07 pm
Also my study score...
Exam 1: assuming 37/40
Exam 2: 64/80, 70/80, 72/80 (just incase I made any other stupid mistakes)
Post by: Max Kawasakii on November 09, 2017, 03:01:51 pm
=> My Method for every practice exam I have ever completed; Start from the start and work my way through, always finishing, no problems.
So what did I do today I hear you ask? WELL MY FRIENDS, I started at Question 2 for Short answers, skipping the first because "It's easy calculations, I'll come back to it later". So I rode a ferris wheel for a while, then had to study for at least 20 minutes but no longer than 70, made it to question 4, had a great time there and finished that bad boy. I then proceeded to the MC and began those, being the jetson I am, with 5 minutes to go I was up to 19, finished 20, then exhaled as I was SO relieved.
In this sense of Euphoria, I turned the page, and my heart Dropped, no like it literally hit the floor. I had COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT THE FIRST QUESTION. I managed to salvage two marks before pens down.
There is a lesson to be learnt here; DO NOT FALTER from what you have always previously done. OR run the risk of being as dejected as I am right now ;)
Post by: Orb on November 09, 2017, 03:03:36 pm
Can anyone predict the A+ cutoff... I think the exam was relatively harder than all the previous exams... lost 8 marks I reckons... (couldn't do the last few questions cause I spent too much time on the Ferris wheel....)
Also my study score...
Exam 1: assuming 37/40
Exam 2: 64/80, 70/80, 72/80 (just incase I made any other stupid mistakes)
37, 41, 43 respectively
My prediction for the A+ cutoff would be around 65/80
Post by: Willba99 on November 09, 2017, 03:04:24 pm
Oh the joys!! ;) ;) ;)
=> My Method for every practice exam I have ever completed; Start from the start and work my way through, always finishing, no problems.
So what did I do today I hear you ask? WELL MY FRIENDS, I started at Question 2 for Short answers, skipping the first because "It's easy calculations, I'll come back to it later". So I rode a ferris wheel for a while, then had to study for at least 20 minutes but no longer than 70, made it to question 4, had a great time there and finished that bad boy. I then proceeded to the MC and began those, being the jetson I am, with 5 minutes to go I was up to 19, finished 20, then exhaled as I was SO relieved.
In this sense of Euphoria, I turned the page, and my heart Dropped, no like it literally hit the floor. I had COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT THE FIRST QUESTION. I Managed to Salvage two marks before pens down.
There is a lesson to be learnt here; DO NOT FALTER from what you have always previously done. OR run the risk of being as dejected as I am right now ;)
or just drop out
If that was methods then there's a very high chance of me walking out of spesh 2 in tears
Post by: Rieko Ioane on November 09, 2017, 03:05:19 pm
Can anyone predict the A+ cutoff... I think the exam was relatively harder than all the previous exams... lost 8 marks I reckons... (couldn't do the last few questions cause I spent too much time on the Ferris wheel....)50.
Also my study score...
Exam 1: assuming 37/40
Exam 2: 64/80, 70/80, 72/80 (just incase I made any other stupid mistakes)
MCQ was pretty easy had to skip 2, ended up getting one but forgot to shade in the bubble lmfao. Had to guess the Australian survey MCQ.
Exam went down hill from finding (u, v) on the Ferris wheel. Pretty sure my method was correct but my calc could not evaluate it.
Did it another way which gives me different values but it's 100% wrong since my v was less than 65.
Anyone know the 'correct' way?
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I didn't finish though lol. I wrote stuff for most questions but didn't have time to go back and re-do the ones I know were wrong for certain.
Definitely harder than last year's exam 2.
Post by: Max Kawasakii on November 09, 2017, 03:09:00 pm
or just drop out
If that was methods then there's a very high chance of me walking out of spesh 2 in tears
I actually feel for you, because there is literally a probability of 1 I'm going to consolidate my life aspirations after exam 2 for spesh.
Post by: Rieko Ioane on November 09, 2017, 03:09:32 pm
Oh the joys!! ;) ;) ;)Hahaha nice one. I did something retarded too.
=> My Method for every practice exam I have ever completed; Start from the start and work my way through, always finishing, no problems.
So what did I do today I hear you ask? WELL MY FRIENDS, I started at Question 2 for Short answers, skipping the first because "It's easy calculations, I'll come back to it later". So I rode a ferris wheel for a while, then had to study for at least 20 minutes but no longer than 70, made it to question 4, had a great time there and finished that bad boy. I then proceeded to the MC and began those, being the jetson I am, with 5 minutes to go I was up to 19, finished 20, then exhaled as I was SO relieved.
In this sense of Euphoria, I turned the page, and my heart Dropped, no like it literally hit the floor. I had COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT THE FIRST QUESTION. I managed to salvage two marks before pens down.
There is a lesson to be learnt here; DO NOT FALTER from what you have always previously done. OR run the risk of being as dejected as I am right now ;)
I skipped MCQ18 (sd = mean for binomial question), came back to it and did it. I circled the answer but forgot to shade in the bubble. The lady says pens down and I double check my MCQ and nothing was shaded, I freaked the fuck out and forgot what was the correct answer, so I shaded D when I knew it was E.
Since I didn't ace exam 2 like I said I was, I guess I needa compensate and get a 50 in spesh 🙄🙄🙄
Post by: dosh24 on November 09, 2017, 03:12:21 pm
Sacs mid-high a+
Exam 1: 38/40
Exam 2: 74/80
Thanks
Post by: Max Kawasakii on November 09, 2017, 03:16:18 pm
Hahaha nice one. I did something retarded too.
I skipped MCQ18 (sd = mean for binomial question), came back to it and did it. I circled the answer but forgot to shade in the bubble. The lady says pens down and I double check my MCQ and nothing was shaded, I freaked the fuck out and forgot what was the correct answer, so I shaded D when I knew it was E.
Since I didn't ace exam 2 like I said I was, I guess I needa compensate and get a 50 in spesh 🙄🙄🙄
I am just imagining the disappointment settle across the examiners face in my face. I would take 1 MC question over x amount of marks I lost from forgetting lmao.
To be honest, I wouldn't even be surprised at this rate if I got a higher SS for spesh, I am well and truly halfway there. Best of luck with the studies :)
Post by: gnaf on November 09, 2017, 03:17:39 pm
E2: 69/80
Sacs: high 80s- strong cohort (avg is 65-80)
prediction?
Post by: zhen on November 09, 2017, 03:19:28 pm
Post by: Pinkydoo on November 09, 2017, 03:19:52 pm
SACS: Low A+, but strong cohort - gets scaled up quite a lot
Exam 1: High A? (~34/40)
Exam 2: Low A+ (~65-68/80)
Post by: Rieko Ioane on November 09, 2017, 03:20:21 pm
I am just imagining the disappointment settle across the examiners face in my face. I would take 1 MC question over x amount of marks I lost from forgetting lmao.That's true, good luck to you too brethren.
To be honest, I wouldn't even be surprised at this rate if I got a higher SS for spesh, I am well and truly halfway there. Best of luck with the studies :)
Post by: Rieko Ioane on November 09, 2017, 03:22:26 pm
Multichoice seemed standard if not a bit easier than normal. But extended response felt like a massive challenge. It felt much harder than 2012 or 2013 exam 2, but I think that my vision is probably clouded by the stress of the exam. Hopefully the A+ cutoff is as low as those years, but it probably won’t be and I’m probably just overreacting because of the stress.Yeah. This exam's ER felt like a combination of Qs from 2012/13 and 2016, but on steroids.
Regardless of difficulty, the A+ cut off won't change by much. Too many einsteins.
Post by: zhen on November 09, 2017, 03:25:52 pm
Yeah. This exam's ER felt like a combination of Qs from 2012/13 and 2016, but on steroids.Well my school is full of Einsteins and even most of them found it very difficult. If it’s as hard as we think the A+ cutoff will be like low 60, like in 2012 and 2013, which I’d be happy with. But, if it turns out that the A+ cutoff is like mid to high 60 and it wasn’t as hard as I thought, then I’d be really annoyed.
Regardless of difficulty, the A+ cut off won't change by much. Too many einsteins.
Post by: Ahmad_A_1999 on November 09, 2017, 03:26:09 pm
Since I didn't ace exam 2 like I said I was, I guess I needa compensate and get a 50 in spesh 🙄🙄🙄
This is my thoughts exactly :D
Post by: LifeisaConstantStruggle on November 09, 2017, 03:27:37 pm
Everything was okay until the ending of the ferris wheel one, and the absolute last question about the area.
So here are my scores (as of now I think) if any kind soul might want to predict my score (I'm in the top 5 in an average-decent cohort with 15-20 40+ scores every year):
SACs: mid to high A+ (scaled to a 100 internally)
E1: 37/40
E2: 65-73/80
Post by: Sine on November 09, 2017, 03:35:22 pm
I think someone posted solutions already but I'll have a go tonight. (got an exam from 6 - 8pm :o )
Post by: benson09 on November 09, 2017, 03:36:36 pm
Exam 1: 30/40
Exam 2: 60/80
SAC Ranking: Slightly below average in a strong cohort
Post by: Something2016 on November 09, 2017, 03:37:45 pm
so far i've heard 1,5,6,7,9 minutes.
Post by: dosh24 on November 09, 2017, 03:39:23 pm
What did you guys get for the last ferris wheel q?7 minutes
so far i've heard 1,5,6,7,9 minutes.
Post by: Max Kawasakii on November 09, 2017, 03:43:51 pm
Multichoice seemed standard if not a bit easier than normal. But extended response felt like a massive challenge. It felt much harder than 2012 or 2013 exam 2, but I think that my vision is probably clouded by the stress of the exam. Hopefully the A+ cutoff is as low as those years, but it probably won’t be and I’m probably just overreacting because of the stress. Anyone else feel this way?
Mhm, Honestly I wasn't really a fan of this years, as opposed to the 2016 exam and even 2013 onwards; I found this years to be quite challenging. MC I agree was pretty stock standard, maybe the population sampling ones were a bit out there. Can 100% agree that SA were a hurdle, I think they might be trying to push methods back, as in; making it more difficult than it has been in recent years. Would be expecting a low cut off for A+ marks this year, and 2016's were already respectively low, hence why I believe they're testing the waters to try and find a happy median. Nonetheless the cohort will be separated this year. You are not overreacting, I feel the same.
Post by: zhen on November 09, 2017, 03:44:20 pm
What would I get if I get 38-40/40 exam 1 and 72-75/80 exam 2? I’m ranked reasonably well in an extremely competitive cohort. I hope I end up scoring this high but wouldn’t be surprised if I did much much worse. So I’m trying to be optimistic.
Post by: LifeisaConstantStruggle on November 09, 2017, 03:47:45 pm
I’m going to be a hypocrite and ask for some predictions. Can’t stop thinking about the exam.
What would I get if I get 38-40/40 exam 1 and 72-75/80 exam 2? I’m ranked reasonably well in an extremely competitive cohort. I hope I end up scoring this high but wouldn’t be surprised if I did much much worse. So I’m trying to be optimistic.
At this point that would probably get you a high 40s (45-48) HAHAHAHA
Post by: decentxion on November 09, 2017, 03:53:40 pm
anyone got a blank copy of the exam?
I think someone posted solutions already but I'll have a go tonight. (got an exam from 6 - 8pm :o )
I'll be getting my hands on a blank copy in a few hours. Let me know if you still want it!
Post by: zhen on November 09, 2017, 03:54:42 pm
At this point that would probably get you a high 40s (45-48) HAHAHAHAThat’d be amazing. Sadly, I don’t think I’ll actually get that high. :'(
Post by: Max Kawasakii on November 09, 2017, 03:54:59 pm
I’m going to be a hypocrite and ask for some predictions. Can’t stop thinking about the exam.
What would I get if I get 38-40/40 exam 1 and 72-75/80 exam 2? I’m ranked reasonably well in an extremely competitive cohort. I hope I end up scoring this high but wouldn’t be surprised if I did much much worse. So I’m trying to be optimistic.
Put it behind you and focus on spesh, what is done is done my friend. You can't change what you get in Methods, but you can for spesh.
Post by: zhen on November 09, 2017, 03:56:09 pm
Put it behind you and focus on spesh, what is done is done my friend. You can't change what you get in Methods, but you can for spesh.Yup, I’ll try to do this. Thanks for the advice. ;D
Post by: decentxion on November 09, 2017, 04:00:28 pm
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5n036hqzbny7v6h/VCAA%202017%20Methods%20Exam%202%20Worked%20Solutions.pdf?dl=0
This exam's multiple choice section was easier than usual, but the extended response made up for it in some areas!
Post by: decentxion on November 09, 2017, 04:03:16 pm
Sorry for all of these questions, but would 39/40 and 79/80 be a 50?
Hard to say, as usually you'll require a 40/40 to even have a chance of a 50. This year's exam was quite easy, so unfortunately I think you're more likely to get a 49.
Post by: JOHNSMITH II on November 09, 2017, 04:09:49 pm
I thought that was fairly tough, relative to other VCAA papers. My (hopefully correct) solutions are below (file size too large to attach here).
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xomM33jx7QvY7CAnnErVjaOJYhk9Bzcb
I believe MC 5 is A, not c. You would add the two values and then divide by two, because each value should differ by the same amount from the sample proportion
With 38/40 in part 1, maybe 72,73 /80 in part 2, and ranked 1, what SS might I get?
Post by: jazzycab on November 09, 2017, 04:13:07 pm
I believe MC 5 is A, not c. You would add the two values and then divide by two, because each value should differ by the same amount from the sample proportion
With 38/40 in part 1, maybe 72,73 /80 in part 2, and ranked 1, what SS might I get?
Yep, I've just picked that up looking at the second set of posted solutions.
Was pretty rushed when I got to that Q as I started with Section B, so didn't error check.
Post by: decentxion on November 09, 2017, 04:14:35 pm
Yep, I've just picked that up looking at the second set of posted solutions.
Was pretty rushed when I got to that Q as I started with Section B, so didn't error check.
Don't worry! I didn't error check either! paid for it with 3 silly errors haha.
Makes me glad I didn't actually sit this exam...
Post by: jazzycab on November 09, 2017, 04:15:56 pm
I've also gone ahead and done some worked solutions to the paper. I've noticed one or two things that I did differently from the one that's been already linked, so if it interests you feel free to look at mine too!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5n036hqzbny7v6h/VCAA%202017%20Methods%20Exam%202%20Worked%20Solutions.pdf?dl=0
This exam's multiple choice section was easier than usual, but the extended response made up for it in some areas!
There are a couple of discrepancies with mine:
You have the correct answer for Q5, mine is incorrect, otherwise our MCQ answers are idenitcal.
In Q2c, you found where the derivative is zero, but we were asked to find where the rate of change is at its maximum.
Looks like you've commented on the other ones already
Post by: jonwil on November 09, 2017, 04:16:13 pm
Forgot to draw the piecewise function for 3 marks...
Fk me
Post by: decentxion on November 09, 2017, 04:16:36 pm
I believe MC 5 is A, not c. You would add the two values and then divide by two, because each value should differ by the same amount from the sample proportion
With 38/40 in part 1, maybe 72,73 /80 in part 2, and ranked 1, what SS might I get?
You're looking at a 42-45! Well done!
Post by: gnaf on November 09, 2017, 04:17:50 pm
How do you use the nature table in 2c) to prove it?
do we have to inc the domain in 2e for the mark
how did you do 3c, d and 4g? i was just comparing them with the other solns
Post by: decentxion on November 09, 2017, 04:19:02 pm
There are a couple of discrepancies with mine:
You have the correct answer for Q5, mine is incorrect, otherwise our MCQ answers are idenitcal.
In Q2c, you found where the derivative is zero, but we were asked to find where the rate of change is at its maximum.
Looks like you've commented on the other ones already
You're absolutely right for Q2c! 4 silly errors jesus..
Thanks for that pickup!
Post by: decentxion on November 09, 2017, 04:20:43 pm
Hey samuel
How do you use the nature table in 2c) to prove it?
do we have to inc the domain in 2e for the mark
how did you do 3c, d and 4g? i was just comparing them with the other solns
My q2c is wrong, misread the q. Refer to jazzycab's answers for that one :)
I've put some comments in on 3c,d and 4g. Sorry for those silly errors! Still studying for my exams so was definitely rushing and was not checking.
Post by: plsbegentle on November 09, 2017, 04:21:43 pm
exam 1: 33/40
exam 2: ~73-75/80
and a strong cohort with decent ranking.
Post by: decentxion on November 09, 2017, 04:24:06 pm
what study score would i be looking at with
exam 1: 33/40
exam 2: ~73-75/80
and a strong cohort with decent ranking.
Probably a 40-42SS. Good recovery on exam 2!
Post by: carol1234567890 on November 09, 2017, 04:24:58 pm
~35/40 exam 1
~67/80 exam 2
rank 3 in a fairly weak cohort with strong top 5
Post by: tega on November 09, 2017, 04:26:21 pm
Post by: Steve252 on November 09, 2017, 04:27:10 pm
What kind of score do you think I could get with the following marks?
SACs- good ranking in strong cohort
Exam 1- 36/40
Exam 2- 63-65/80
Cheers
Post by: plsbegentle on November 09, 2017, 04:28:05 pm
Probably a 40-42SS. Good recovery on exam 2!yeah honestly thought after exam 1, i was just gonna give up in methods and move on to spesh.
Post by: LifeisaConstantStruggle on November 09, 2017, 04:28:34 pm
If any kind soul might want to predict my score (I'm in the top 5 in an average-decent cohort with 15-20 40+ scores every year):
SACs: mid to high A+ (scaled to a 100 internally)
E1: 37/40
E2: 65-73/80
Bump? thanks :)
Post by: Sine on November 09, 2017, 04:29:35 pm
what might this be37-38 raw
~35/40 exam 1
~67/80 exam 2
rank 3 in a fairly weak cohort with strong top 5
possibly higher if people in your cohort do extremely well
Post by: Seamus212205 on November 09, 2017, 04:29:44 pm
Ok so I really hate methods.
I'm rank 25/70ish kids.
GA1: 65/100
GA2: 28/80 OR 34/80 (yes very sad)
GA3: 84/160 (I actually passed, what a joke)
I'm only doing this for those stupid 25 in methods prerequisites :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( thanks for helping me reduce my stress, hopefully I can pull it off....
Post by: gameboy99 on November 09, 2017, 04:31:12 pm
:) :)
SAC's: mid 70's (selective entry school)
Exam 1: 28/40
Exam 2: 58/80
Post by: gnaf on November 09, 2017, 04:36:05 pm
My q2c is wrong, misread the q. Refer to jazzycab's answers for that one :)
I've put some comments in on 3c,d and 4g. Sorry for those silly errors! Still studying for my exams so was definitely rushing and was not checking.
thanks 😊 do we need a domain for 2e
exam 1: 33/40
exam 2: 70/80
Sacs: high 80s in a atrong cohort- i think avg is 70 usually, but i dont think we do well usually (not sure)
Post by: -elcee on November 09, 2017, 04:37:53 pm
Post by: benson09 on November 09, 2017, 04:49:48 pm
What study score am I gonna get? I'm quite disappointed that I dropped marks that I knew the answer to.bump
Exam 1: 30/40
Exam 2: 60/80
SAC Ranking: Slightly below average in a strong cohort
Post by: -273.15 on November 09, 2017, 05:03:21 pm
sac scores - roughly an A
exam 1 - 22/40
exam 2 - 58 / 80
:(
Post by: jazzycab on November 09, 2017, 05:08:18 pm
thanks 😊 do we need a domain for 2e
exam 1: 33/40
exam 2: 70/80
Sacs: high 80s at macrob- i think avg is 70 usually, but i dont think we do well usually (not sure)
Given that the question was worth 1 mark, I would probably suggest that the domain won't be required, however, the assessor's decide the marking scheme, not the setters (i.e. the people who write the exams)
Post by: gnaf on November 09, 2017, 05:12:51 pm
Given that the question was worth 1 mark, I would probably suggest that the domain won't be required, however, the assessor's decide the marking scheme, not the setters (i.e. the people who write the exams)thanks so much :)
Post by: Jemin99 on November 09, 2017, 05:18:34 pm
Post by: Thunder8621 on November 09, 2017, 05:20:25 pm
Post by: Something2016 on November 09, 2017, 05:23:18 pm
Ranked 3rd in competitive cohort (marks differ by 1-2%s) with SAC Average 95%.
39/40 Exam 1
74/80 Exam 2
Post by: messi10 on November 09, 2017, 05:28:09 pm
68/80
What ssc am i standing on???
Post by: Pinkydoo on November 09, 2017, 05:29:24 pm
67/80 Exam 2
SACs Lowish A+, ranked quite highly in a competitive cohort, SACs get scaled up by quite a lot
Can I get a 39?
Post by: Please on November 09, 2017, 05:39:42 pm
Post by: ScreaMy on November 09, 2017, 05:47:27 pm
Sorry that was really aggressive. But :D Could someone please tell me what study score I would be looking at for if I am rank 2 with the following scores:
GA1: 70%
Exam 1: 70%
Exam 2: 70%
Post by: jazzycab on November 09, 2017, 06:02:59 pm
Could someone please explain question 2f, I was certain that by finding the equation of the tangent and equating to f(u) would give me the valueThe equation of the tangent is defined by the point that it is tangential to, so you've tried to use the definition of the tangent to find a point on the tangent, which would most likely give you u=u or something similar.
The way I did it was to find the gradient of the tangent using the derivative function at x=u, then set this equal to the tangent defined by the right-angled triangle
where
Post by: Kaank21 on November 09, 2017, 06:25:53 pm
I am in a class of less then 5 students, my marks have been 90+ for all sacs. What kind of study score am i looking at ?
is 38 possible by any chance?
Post by: peter.g15 on November 09, 2017, 06:29:48 pm
Post by: Tobia on November 09, 2017, 06:43:12 pm
What kind of scores for both exams would you need for a 25 ? Only doing methods bc of prereq...
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Post by: qrrdt on November 09, 2017, 06:49:37 pm
Sacs: 80% average in a relatively strong cohort
Exam 1: 35/40
Exam 2: 62/80
Post by: Orb on November 09, 2017, 06:56:30 pm
34/40 Exam 1
67/80 Exam 2
SACs Lowish A+, ranked quite highly in a competitive cohort, SACs get scaled up by quite a lot
Can I get a 39?
Yes
Post by: maabat on November 09, 2017, 07:00:37 pm
Post by: ScreaMy on November 09, 2017, 07:42:28 pm
Post by: messi10 on November 09, 2017, 08:05:55 pm
Would 70% in Exams = 35 SS?https://www.desmos.com/calculator/kxpfx9qu2c
I found this, i don't know how accurate it may be but it can give a slight indication
Post by: messi10 on November 09, 2017, 08:07:09 pm
To those who have experience, is this graph used to predict study score for methods accurate???
thanks
Post by: Pinkydoo on November 09, 2017, 08:26:15 pm
66/80 Exam 2
SACs Lowish A+, ranked quite highly in a competitive cohort, SACs get scaled up by quite a lot
Can I possibly get a 40? ???
Post by: skrrrt on November 09, 2017, 08:34:51 pm
Post by: Pinkydoo on November 09, 2017, 08:38:04 pm
Did anyone answer with dilate by a factor of 1/loge2 from the y/x axis instead of 1/k ? :(
Nope, sorry mate
Post by: laws12 on November 09, 2017, 08:42:26 pm
Exam 1- 36/40
Exam 2- 67/80
What do you reckon I've copped, many thanks
Post by: TwoStepStepOut on November 09, 2017, 09:02:08 pm
However, I started thinking about this when I was completing the Ferris Wheel question:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Onw7VStieb8
edit: Spelling error.
Post by: princessofpersia on November 09, 2017, 09:30:52 pm
imo they should have given us a heads up about the change (at methods PDs), b/C I expected the exam to to be similar to last years since the curriculum changed last year not this year, and after doing all those trial exams particular patterns of questions (from over the years) become embedded in our minds, and today's exam didn't really conform to that style.
Post by: ZNormal on November 09, 2017, 09:38:30 pm
Post by: Sine on November 09, 2017, 09:40:39 pm
Hey guys, I don’t do spesh but for the question where it asked for where the rate of change is at its maximum, I double derived the function. I didn’t realise this was double deriving was spesh(I think??) so will they still give me marks?vcaa has been pretty vague on whether double deriving is ok. However on last years e1 for a local minimum question it wasn't listed as a possible technique so I don't think you can get marks. It really depends on the assesors that you get imo
Post by: jazzycab on November 09, 2017, 10:06:54 pm
Post by: dowe on November 09, 2017, 10:15:43 pm
48/80 Exam 2
SACs Lowish A+, ranked secondish in a (myself included) dismal cohort
Any chance for a 30?
Post by: Conic on November 09, 2017, 10:16:58 pm
Hey guys, I don’t do spesh but for the question where it asked for where the rate of change is at its maximum, I double derived the function. I didn’t realise this was double deriving was spesh(I think??) so will they still give me marks?
I don't see any problems with this type of approach. It seems like you just applied standard results about maxima and minima from the study design to a function that happens to be the derivative of another function. The use of double derivatives tends to be more of an issue when students use them to classify stationary points, which doesn't seem to be what you did.
Post by: ZNormal on November 09, 2017, 10:41:19 pm
Any correct mathematics is acceptable, regardless of whether it's in the course or not so second derivative is fine
I don't see any problems with this type of approach. It seems like you just applied standard results about maxima and minima from the study design to a function that happens to be the derivative of another function. The use of double derivatives tends to be more of an issue when students use them to classify stationary points, which doesn't seem to be what you did.
vcaa has been pretty vague on whether double deriving is ok. However on last years e1 for a local minimum question it wasn't listed as a possible technique so I don't think you can get marks. It really depends on the assesors that you get imo
Thank you so much guys :)
Post by: dk1234 on November 10, 2017, 01:25:43 am
what kind of a ss would exam 1 - 30/40 and exam 2 - 56/80 get
thanks
Post by: buquine on November 10, 2017, 01:22:45 pm
2. h.)
Thanks, sorry if this has been answered
Post by: XCatAtWork on November 10, 2017, 06:08:03 pm
is it still possible for me to get 47-48 SS if:
ranked 2nd in a relatively strong maths cohort
40/40 for exam 1
75-76/80 for exam 2?
(or will my mark be even higher than that? :P :P)
thanks a bunch
Post by: Atlantis on November 10, 2017, 07:05:06 pm
Hi all,
is it still possible for me to get 47-48 SS if:
ranked 2nd in a relatively strong maths cohort
40/40 for exam 1
75-76/80 for exam 2?
(or will my mark be even higher than that? :P :P)
thanks a bunch
really depends on rank #1 in your cohort if they also did well than you could get a 49/50, and also depending on how many people full marked the first exam + got higher than 75/80 for the second, but you're definitely looking at a high score above 46 for sure!
Post by: XCatAtWork on November 10, 2017, 07:58:03 pm
really depends on rank #1 in your cohort if they also did well than you could get a 49/50, and also depending on how many people full marked the first exam + got higher than 75/80 for the second, but you're definitely looking at a high score above 46 for sure!ohhhh i see, ok thanks so much :)
Post by: pippinpie on November 10, 2017, 10:24:26 pm
With SAC scores of a high B+, rank 5-6 out of 9 in a relatively strong cohort, and 25/40 for exam one and possibly looking at around 35-40/80 in exam two would it be at all possible to get a study score about 25?
Post by: jazzycab on November 12, 2017, 02:05:23 pm
Thoughts on if this required any working out? Would just the integer be enough for 2 marks?
2. h.)
Thanks, sorry if this has been answered
There is only one answer required, so this can only be 1 of the 2 marks. Sorry.
Post by: Tobia on November 12, 2017, 04:09:55 pm
So sort of terrified about whether I can get a 25 anymore, the exams did not go as planned and I'm preparing for the worst.
With SAC scores of a high B+, rank 5-6 out of 9 in a relatively strong cohort, and 25/40 for exam one and possibly looking at around 35-40/80 in exam two would it be at all possible to get a study score about 25?
Relax bro they are good scores, you will defs get 31/32+ study score with 25/40 being a middle B+ and 35/80 being a High C+, or low B at worst
Post by: brandon.lauton15 on November 15, 2017, 11:39:39 am
If I got 39/40 in exam 1
And 69/80 on exam 2
With a sac average of A+
What ss am I looking at?
Cheers
Post by: Sine on November 15, 2017, 04:34:45 pm
Hey quick questiondefinitely triple A+'s imo
If I got 39/40 in exam 1
And 69/80 on exam 2
With a sac average of A+
What ss am I looking at?
Cheers
so my estimation is a 42
Post by: JamesMaths on November 18, 2017, 12:47:28 am
http://www.facebook.com/james.maths.754
I wonder where I can download a blank copy of the 2017 maths methods exam 2 and 2017 specialist maths exam 2?
Thanks
James Cui.
Develop mathematical skills for year 9 – 12 students.
Post by: Cricketer99 on November 20, 2017, 08:41:41 pm
About 50% average on the sacs
And say anywhere between 40-60% on the exams, total percent there.
Hopeful of a 25?
Post by: Willba99 on November 20, 2017, 09:49:45 pm
For the study score buffs, what do you reckon?
About 50% average on the sacs
And say anywhere between 40-60% on the exams, total percent there.
Hopeful of a 25?
I'd say closer to 30