Post by: redmosez on January 30, 2010, 09:52:30 pm
Mine are:
ESD1
Calculus 1
Physics 1
Managing and Leading Organisations
Anyone done/is doing any of these? Any feedback?
Pretty excited! :)
Post by: squance on January 30, 2010, 11:50:23 pm
I did ESD1 and Calculus 1 in 2008, my first year of engineering.
ESD1 in my year, was to be quite honest, a bludge. It was a very useless subject. However, I have heard that last year, the standards of ESD1 went up and there was more work to be done n that subject.
Since I didn't have a very strong Maths background, Calculus 1 was very difficult for me - the vector stuff screwed me over so badly and I had no fun when I did the exam. I actually found Calculus 2 to be much easier than Calculus 1.
Post by: Edmund on January 30, 2010, 11:53:57 pm
Lectures were too boring I don't want to talk about them. Tutorials were okay...
Post by: redmosez on January 31, 2010, 12:26:55 am
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ESD1 in my year, was to be quite honest, a bludge. It was a very useless subject. However, I have heard that last year, the standards of ESD1 went up and there was more work to be done n that subject.
Hey TinyApple
I heard that ESD1 was supposed to be really hard, I really hope it's a bludge :)
Was it any fun? We had an American guy (don't remember his name) talking about it at enrolment and he made it sound pretty fun.
Both guys presenting for Eng at enrolment were awesome speakers, really hope the quality of lecturers is that good.
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Managing and Leading Organisations was easy but dead boring.
Hey Edmund
Damn I was hoping it would be interesting, I figure seeing as I have a choice for breadth might as well do something interesting.
Anyone have any recommendation for an interesting breadth, preferably from commerce (management).
I've heard "Intro to Micro" is pretty cool, any thoughts?
Post by: QuantumJG on January 31, 2010, 12:44:51 am
So who has chosen their first semester subjects?
Mine are:
ESD1
Calculus 1
Physics 1
Managing and Leading Organisations
Anyone done/is doing any of these? Any feedback?
Pretty excited! :)
I did ESD 1 & Physics 1 advanced (basically the same as standard in terms of syllabus). Anyway:
- ESD 1: First few weeks are very bludgy and you will be going insane with boredom. Keep in mind that if the exam doesn't change that you should keep a few safety examples fresh in your mind. You will also be introduced into fluid mechanics (the difficult part is modelling through MATLAB), then you have Robolab which was a pain in the but. Overall if you put in the effort, then passing shouldn't be too hard, but it's hard for people to get high H1's.
- Physics 1: This subject starts straight away and there is ABSOLUTELY nothing bludgy about it. You will extend your mechanics knowledge, optics knowledge and special relativity knowledge (if you did special relativity in VCE, then this will shock you). Even though you only have 3 key areas don't let this fool you as you will be introduced to much more mechanics and optics stuff than what is taught in VCE. Again with a decent amount of work you can pass or even get into the H2 - H1 zone.
I haven't personally done calc 1, but from what my friends say it's like VCE specialist maths taught in 12 weeks.
Post by: QuantumJG on January 31, 2010, 12:52:27 am
QuoteESD1 in my year, was to be quite honest, a bludge. It was a very useless subject. However, I have heard that last year, the standards of ESD1 went up and there was more work to be done n that subject.
Hey TinyApple
I heard that ESD1 was supposed to be really hard, I really hope it's a bludge :)
Was it any fun? We had an American guy (don't remember his name) talking about it at enrolment and he made it sound pretty fun.
Both guys presenting for Eng at enrolment were awesome speakers, really hope the quality of lecturers is that good.QuoteManaging and Leading Organisations was easy but dead boring.
Hey Edmund
Damn I was hoping it would be interesting, I figure seeing as I have a choice for breadth might as well do something interesting.
Anyone have any recommendation for an interesting breadth, preferably from commerce (management).
I've heard "Intro to Micro" is pretty cool, any thoughts?
The American guy is Raymond Dagastine. Yes the speeches 'make' ESD 1 sound fun, but the subject drove me crazy. Ray is a great lecturer and tries to make the subject fun (the challenge of all challenges) and we all thought he was great in that respect, but in terms of practical advice that will get you straight to the point the guy you want is Gavin. But I must mention the two professors of ESD 2 (Andrew and Jamie) are gold.
Post by: jasrulz63 on January 31, 2010, 01:23:52 am
Biology of Cells and Organisms
Fundamentals of Chemistry
Choir #1
Post by: chops_07 on January 31, 2010, 01:46:40 am
Introductory Microeconomics
Food For A Healthy Planet
Quantitative Methods 1
Post by: Peedles on January 31, 2010, 01:56:46 am
Physics 1: Fundamentals
Biology of Cells and Organisms
Chemistry 1
Finance 1
Post by: redmosez on January 31, 2010, 02:51:25 am
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I did ESD 1 & Physics 1 advanced (basically the same as standard in terms of syllabus). Anyway:
Oh dear, that all sounds... fun :P
Thanks for the heads up.
Out of curiosity, what did you do for your first year breadth?
Post by: d0minicz on January 31, 2010, 03:14:32 am
620155 Calculus 2
620168 Experimental Design and Data
650121 Biomolecules and Cells
im doing both breadth in sem 2 lol
Post by: Flaming_Arrow on January 31, 2010, 04:43:09 am
Post by: redmosez on January 31, 2010, 05:34:15 am
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how many breadths do u have to do per year?
Depends for Beng it's between 37.5 and 50 points worth for the entire degree, so 3-4 subjects depending on stream.
For non Bend I believe it's 75 points all up, so 2 subjects a year.
Post by: Edmund on January 31, 2010, 10:22:42 am
Easy - You don't have to pay much attention to the lecturer, he rambles on and on about examples and not the theory. All you need to do is get books from the library, learn the theories yourself and do the assignment. Then you do the same for the exam (3 essay response to 3 topics - they will tell you the topics beforehand)QuoteESD1 in my year, was to be quite honest, a bludge. It was a very useless subject. However, I have heard that last year, the standards of ESD1 went up and there was more work to be done n that subject.
Hey TinyApple
I heard that ESD1 was supposed to be really hard, I really hope it's a bludge :)
Was it any fun? We had an American guy (don't remember his name) talking about it at enrolment and he made it sound pretty fun.
Both guys presenting for Eng at enrolment were awesome speakers, really hope the quality of lecturers is that good.QuoteManaging and Leading Organisations was easy but dead boring.
Hey Edmund
Damn I was hoping it would be interesting, I figure seeing as I have a choice for breadth might as well do something interesting.
Anyone have any recommendation for an interesting breadth, preferably from commerce (management).
I've heard "Intro to Micro" is pretty cool, any thoughts?
Boring - Lecture time is nap time. 100% theory based. Theory is boring.
Why I recommend it - Requires minimal studying, only have to spend time during assignment periods and exam period, lots of tips and hints, exam questions are too obvious once you are told the exam topics. Tutors are fantastic and make sure you get to know them
Post by: Gloamglozer on January 31, 2010, 11:55:37 am
610-101 Chemistry 1
800-001 Mind, Brain and Behaviour 1
316-102 Introductory Microeconomics
I have absolutely no idea why I'm doing 800-001.
Post by: iamdan08 on January 31, 2010, 11:59:13 am
Biological Psychology
Accounting Transactions and Analysis
:)
Post by: nicholasysc on January 31, 2010, 12:03:10 pm
620-155 Calculus 2
620-156 Linear Algebra
110-188 Japanese 3A
Post by: bridger on January 31, 2010, 12:04:56 pm
ESD 1
Calculus 2
Introductory Microeconomics
Post by: extcar on January 31, 2010, 12:39:50 pm
calculus 2
ESD 1
chemistry 1
accounting reports and analysis
not sure about the accounting subject though... might change it into a language since i hear accounting is super boring.
Post by: ReVeL on January 31, 2010, 01:36:09 pm
- Cost Management
- Organisational Behaviour
- Introductory Econometrics
- Property Market Analysis
Semester 2:
- Intermediate Financial Accounting
- Business Finance
- Corporate Law
- Principles of Property Valuation
EDIT: Updated.
Post by: Mxbn0 on January 31, 2010, 01:53:36 pm
Calc 2
Physics 1
Breadth? No idea what to pick :/
Post by: d0minicz on January 31, 2010, 02:15:56 pm
sounds good =]
800-001 Mind, Brain and Behaviour 1
I have absolutely no idea why I'm doing 800-001.
Post by: QuantumJG on January 31, 2010, 02:24:22 pm
- Real Analysis with Applications
- Themal & Classical Physics
- Quantum Mechanics and Special Relativity
- Introductory Personal Finance
Real Analysis and Thermal & Classical physics should be cool, I'm slightly scared of quantum mechanics & special relativity (these are still fairly new areas of physics to me) whilst I'll see how I go with personal finance.
Anyway I'm looking forward to uni.
Post by: Edmund on January 31, 2010, 02:42:59 pm
Subject/s:
333203 Introductory Personal Finance (S1)
516210 Principles of Human Structure (S1)
521211 Biochemistry and Molecular Biology (S1)
526201 Principles of Microbiology & Immunology (S1)
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Post by: username on January 31, 2010, 02:50:33 pm
800-001 Mind, Brain and Behaviour 1
I have absolutely no idea why I'm doing 800-001.
This subject was so fun. It's an easy H1 too.
Anyway here's mine:
131085 Witches and Witch Hunting in Europe (S1) (Breadth)
516212 Fundamentals of Cell Biology (S1)
526201 Principles of Microbiology & Immunology (S1)
654217 Animal Structure and Function (S1)
Post by: appianway on January 31, 2010, 02:53:55 pm
First semester's subjects of my second year are:
- Real Analysis with Applications
- Themal & Classical Physics
- Quantum Mechanics and Special Relativity
- Introductory Personal Finance
Real Analysis and Thermal & Classical physics should be cool, I'm slightly scared of quantum mechanics & special relativity (these are still fairly new areas of physics to me) whilst I'll see how I go with personal finance.
Anyway I'm looking forward to uni.
Ah, quantum's one of my favourite areas - do you get to do the Schrodinger equations? I like relativity too... 4 vectors are pretty useful :)
And then thermal physics... how lucky!
I think I'm slightly envious... it sounds more interesting than my VCE program :P
Post by: Ahmad on January 31, 2010, 03:49:10 pm
Probability and Statistical Inference (click here for comic)
Complex Analysis (click here for comic)
Logic Completeness and Incompleteness (click here for comic)
Post by: Flaming_Arrow on January 31, 2010, 04:11:27 pm
316102 Introductory Microeconomics (S1)
316130 Quantitative Methods 1 (S1)
732103 Principles of Business Law (S1)
Post by: redmosez on January 31, 2010, 04:34:46 pm
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Real Analysis and Thermal & Classical physics should be cool, I'm slightly scared of quantum mechanics & special relativity
Haha I was thinking the exact opposite. What (little) I know about quantum mechanics & special relativity I love.
Post by: QuantumJG on January 31, 2010, 05:08:02 pm
I've actually forgotten what I've picked :2funny: What a long break, anyway, here's my first sem subs
Subject/s:
333203 Introductory Personal Finance (S1)
516210 Principles of Human Structure (S1)
521211 Biochemistry and Molecular Biology (S1)
526201 Principles of Microbiology & Immunology (S1)
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Hopefully I'll see you in introductory personal finance.
First semester's subjects of my second year are:
- Real Analysis with Applications
- Themal & Classical Physics
- Quantum Mechanics and Special Relativity
- Introductory Personal Finance
Real Analysis and Thermal & Classical physics should be cool, I'm slightly scared of quantum mechanics & special relativity (these are still fairly new areas of physics to me) whilst I'll see how I go with personal finance.
Anyway I'm looking forward to uni.
Ah, quantum's one of my favourite areas - do you get to do the Schrodinger equations? I like relativity too... 4 vectors are pretty useful :)
And then thermal physics... how lucky!
I think I'm slightly envious... it sounds more interesting than my VCE program :P
I think so.
Last year we were introduced to Schrödinger equation in a lecture so I vaguely know a tiny bit of it.
Post by: dejan91 on January 31, 2010, 08:19:51 pm
316-130 Quantitative Methods 1
333-101 Finance 1
620-155 Calculus 2
Can anyone explain this though: for some reason i got an email saying that I do NOT meet the pre-req's of Calculus 2. This is despite having done Specialist last year and achieving a score greater than 27 (the minimum). Wtf?? Going to have to call them tomorrow..
Post by: QuantumJG on January 31, 2010, 11:24:14 pm
316-102 Introductory Microeconomics
316-130 Quantitative Methods 1
333-101 Finance 1
620-155 Calculus 2
Can anyone explain this though: for some reason i got an email saying that I do NOT meet the pre-req's of Calculus 2. This is despite having done Specialist last year and achieving a score greater than 27 (the minimum). Wtf?? Going to have to call them tomorrow..
It happens to everyone, they need to manually confirm you.
Post by: bridger on January 31, 2010, 11:58:28 pm
316-102 Introductory Microeconomics
316-130 Quantitative Methods 1
333-101 Finance 1
620-155 Calculus 2
Can anyone explain this though: for some reason i got an email saying that I do NOT meet the pre-req's of Calculus 2. This is despite having done Specialist last year and achieving a score greater than 27 (the minimum). Wtf?? Going to have to call them tomorrow..
Yeah happened to me, then I was told it was just automated and they sent me an email later confirming it
Post by: dejan91 on February 01, 2010, 12:37:29 am
Post by: mickallotropy on February 01, 2010, 01:12:24 am
Physics Advanced 1
Philosophy, Politics and Economics
Japanese 2/3A (Hoping for 3, unsure if I'll do it if I have to do 2)
Post by: Gloamglozer on February 01, 2010, 09:42:48 am
800-001 Mind, Brain and Behaviour 1
I have absolutely no idea why I'm doing 800-001.
This subject was so fun. It's an easy H1 too.
Really? I guess I shouldn't be complaining then, should I? lol
Post by: Edmund on February 01, 2010, 09:45:06 am
Isn't that a half Arts subject where you have to write essays? :P800-001 Mind, Brain and Behaviour 1
I have absolutely no idea why I'm doing 800-001.
This subject was so fun. It's an easy H1 too.
Really? I guess I shouldn't be complaining then, should I? lol
Post by: Gloamglozer on February 01, 2010, 10:05:15 am
Isn't that a half Arts subject where you have to write essays? :P800-001 Mind, Brain and Behaviour 1
I have absolutely no idea why I'm doing 800-001.
This subject was so fun. It's an easy H1 too.
Really? I guess I shouldn't be complaining then, should I? lol
Oh noes... But it makes sense since it's psychology. username, really?
Post by: Noblesse on February 01, 2010, 10:15:55 am
316206 Quantitative Methods 2
325201 Organisational Behaviour
615282 Shaping the Enterprise with ICT
Post by: username on February 01, 2010, 02:07:26 pm
Isn't that a half Arts subject where you have to write essays? :P800-001 Mind, Brain and Behaviour 1
I have absolutely no idea why I'm doing 800-001.
This subject was so fun. It's an easy H1 too.
Really? I guess I shouldn't be complaining then, should I? lol
Oh noes... But it makes sense since it's psychology. username, really?
You write one essay worth 40%, the exam is 60%. Simon (one of the lecturers) GIVES everyone his exam question section and it's up to you to find out the answers.
Post by: Edmund on February 01, 2010, 04:48:40 pm
I heard the essay was describing the sunset/sunrise in 1000 words - can't be sure though =/Isn't that a half Arts subject where you have to write essays? :P800-001 Mind, Brain and Behaviour 1
I have absolutely no idea why I'm doing 800-001.
This subject was so fun. It's an easy H1 too.
Really? I guess I shouldn't be complaining then, should I? lol
Oh noes... But it makes sense since it's psychology. username, really?
You write one essay worth 40%, the exam is 60%. Simon (one of the lecturers) GIVES everyone his exam question section and it's up to you to find out the answers.
Post by: QuantumJG on February 01, 2010, 05:21:13 pm
QuoteReal Analysis and Thermal & Classical physics should be cool, I'm slightly scared of quantum mechanics & special relativity
Haha I was thinking the exact opposite. What (little) I know about quantum mechanics & special relativity I love.
These two areas of physics are obviously the most interesting to me, but some parts of them can be really weird and difficult to understand. Especially the paradoxes in special relativity (e.g. Pole in shed paradox).
The maths in special relativity is extremely easy (Lorentz transformation maths is easy), but conceptually it is much more difficult (understanding what data is what in an event takes up 95% of the work).
Quantum physics such as atomic physics, quantum light model is all good, but shrodinger equations are confusing (not doing the maths, but the concept behind them).
As I said though, I love these areas of physics and am probably scared because we only spent 2 weeks of lectures covering quantum mechanics and 2 lectures covering special relativity.
Post by: Gloamglozer on February 01, 2010, 05:31:00 pm
I heard the essay was describing the sunset/sunrise in 1000 words - can't be sure though =/Isn't that a half Arts subject where you have to write essays? :P800-001 Mind, Brain and Behaviour 1
I have absolutely no idea why I'm doing 800-001.
This subject was so fun. It's an easy H1 too.
Really? I guess I shouldn't be complaining then, should I? lol
Oh noes... But it makes sense since it's psychology. username, really?
You write one essay worth 40%, the exam is 60%. Simon (one of the lecturers) GIVES everyone his exam question section and it's up to you to find out the answers.
I don't have a problem with essays, but describing the sunset/sunrise in that many words is a little bit ridiculous in my opinion for an exam question. I hope that isn't the case or else I'm changing subjects a.s.a.p.
Post by: QuantumJG on February 01, 2010, 05:57:11 pm
620-154 Calculus 1
610-101 Chemistry 1
800-001 Mind, Brain and Behaviour 1
316-102 Introductory Microeconomics
I have absolutely no idea why I'm doing 800-001.
What majors interest you?
If it's something health related, then do physics, chemistry and biology. If your aspiring to become a psychologist (you probably aren't because you don't like writing) then stay with psychology or if you would like to pursue maths then swap psychology with physics.
Post by: username on February 01, 2010, 06:54:34 pm
I heard the essay was describing the sunset/sunrise in 1000 words - can't be sure though =/Isn't that a half Arts subject where you have to write essays? :P800-001 Mind, Brain and Behaviour 1
I have absolutely no idea why I'm doing 800-001.
This subject was so fun. It's an easy H1 too.
Really? I guess I shouldn't be complaining then, should I? lol
Oh noes... But it makes sense since it's psychology. username, really?
You write one essay worth 40%, the exam is 60%. Simon (one of the lecturers) GIVES everyone his exam question section and it's up to you to find out the answers.
I don't have a problem with essays, but describing the sunset/sunrise in that many words is a little bit ridiculous in my opinion for an exam question. I hope that isn't the case or else I'm changing subjects a.s.a.p.
It's not an exam question. It's a take home assignment that you have 1 month or so to do. And it's not just purely descriptive, you'll have to link it to the visual pathway. I'm not sure if they'll keep the sunset question though.
Don't treat this subject as purely artsy or whatever. The first lecture series by Jason is extremely biology orientated. You'll be learning about the brain and eyes in great detail.
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on February 01, 2010, 07:46:05 pm
Introductory Microeconomics
Principles of Buisness Law
Accounting Reports and Analysis
Post by: chewybacca on February 01, 2010, 09:37:43 pm
316130 Quantitative Methods 1
306106 Accounting Processes and Analysis (used to be Business Process Analysis) (can anyone who's done this describe how it's like? ;D)
732103 Principles of Business Law
Post by: ReVeL on February 01, 2010, 10:20:37 pm
306106 Accounting Processes and Analysis (used to be Business Process Analysis) (can anyone who's done this describe how it's like? ;D)
Absolutely awful subject I thought. It is an accounting subject, but theres no numbers. It focuses on the flow of data/information and how these processes within the business allow things like a sale to take place. It bored the living shit out of me (I quite enjoyed ARA and ATA mind you), but it's not overly difficult. After each week I'd ask myself 'What have I actually learnt in this subject?' and I could never really answer that question. Bring your common sense to the exam and you're almost certain to get 70+ even with minimal study. Probably my least favourite subject so far at uni.
BUT YOU MIGHT LIKE IT..? Haha
Post by: minilunchbox on February 01, 2010, 10:35:03 pm
306106 Accounting Processes and Analysis (used to be Business Process Analysis) (can anyone who's done this describe how it's like? ;D)
Absolutely awful subject I thought. It is an accounting subject, but theres no numbers. It focuses on the flow of data/information and how these processes within the business allow things like a sale to take place. It bored the living shit out of me (I quite enjoyed ARA and ATA mind you), but it's not overly difficult. After each week I'd ask myself 'What have I actually learnt in this subject?' and I could never really answer that question. Bring your common sense to the exam and you're almost certain to get 70+ even with minimal study. Probably my least favourite subject so far at uni.
BUT YOU MIGHT LIKE IT..? Haha
Nice save.
Post by: Edmund on February 01, 2010, 10:35:35 pm
Sounds like Managing People and Organisations :(306106 Accounting Processes and Analysis (used to be Business Process Analysis) (can anyone who's done this describe how it's like? ;D)
Absolutely awful subject I thought. It is an accounting subject, but theres no numbers. It focuses on the flow of data/information and how these processes within the business allow things like a sale to take place. It bored the living shit out of me (I quite enjoyed ARA and ATA mind you), but it's not overly difficult. After each week I'd ask myself 'What have I actually learnt in this subject?' and I could never really answer that question. Bring your common sense to the exam and you're almost certain to get 70+ even with minimal study. Probably my least favourite subject so far at uni.
BUT YOU MIGHT LIKE IT..? Haha
Post by: Noblesse on February 01, 2010, 10:39:25 pm
Sounds like Managing People and Organisations :(306106 Accounting Processes and Analysis (used to be Business Process Analysis) (can anyone who's done this describe how it's like? ;D)
Absolutely awful subject I thought. It is an accounting subject, but theres no numbers. It focuses on the flow of data/information and how these processes within the business allow things like a sale to take place. It bored the living shit out of me (I quite enjoyed ARA and ATA mind you), but it's not overly difficult. After each week I'd ask myself 'What have I actually learnt in this subject?' and I could never really answer that question. Bring your common sense to the exam and you're almost certain to get 70+ even with minimal study. Probably my least favourite subject so far at uni.
BUT YOU MIGHT LIKE IT..? Haha
Haha yeah, it was pretty awful. I stopped going to lectures half way through, Trevor's jokes got to be too much :P
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on February 01, 2010, 10:51:17 pm
Post by: ReVeL on February 01, 2010, 10:57:50 pm
Trevor's jokes got to be too much :P
I hear you loud and clear.
Post by: Noblesse on February 01, 2010, 11:23:31 pm
Ahh right. I'm not taking it, but do you find it useful for Cost Management Jamison? Because I'm trying for Actuarial, but if I don't like it, I want to go for Accounting.
Can't really say sorry, haven't started Cost Management yet :P
However, isn't it one of the prereqs? I doubt it would be that useful anyway....
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on February 01, 2010, 11:41:27 pm
Post by: Gloamglozer on February 02, 2010, 12:13:23 am
620-154 Calculus 1
610-101 Chemistry 1
800-001 Mind, Brain and Behaviour 1
316-102 Introductory Microeconomics
I have absolutely no idea why I'm doing 800-001.
What majors interest you?
If it's something health related, then do physics, chemistry and biology. If your aspiring to become a psychologist (you probably aren't because you don't like writing) then stay with psychology or if you would like to pursue maths then swap psychology with physics.
I'm leaning towards Mathematics and Statistics if I have to stay in science so I'm really not sure which other subjects complement my major. I know physics does, but having done two years of VCE physics and skimming the surface of the iceberg, I really didn't enjoy physics.
It's sort of weird because some people say that if you enjoy maths, then you should enjoy physics as well but with me I enjoy maths but absolutely loathe physics with passion.
Post by: dejan91 on February 02, 2010, 01:05:36 am
Post by: QuantumJG on February 02, 2010, 09:44:18 am
620-154 Calculus 1
610-101 Chemistry 1
800-001 Mind, Brain and Behaviour 1
316-102 Introductory Microeconomics
I have absolutely no idea why I'm doing 800-001.
What majors interest you?
If it's something health related, then do physics, chemistry and biology. If your aspiring to become a psychologist (you probably aren't because you don't like writing) then stay with psychology or if you would like to pursue maths then swap psychology with physics.
I'm leaning towards Mathematics and Statistics if I have to stay in science so I'm really not sure which other subjects complement my major. I know physics does, but having done two years of VCE physics and skimming the surface of the iceberg, I really didn't enjoy physics.
It's sort of weird because some people say that if you enjoy maths, then you should enjoy physics as well but with me I enjoy maths but absolutely loathe physics with passion.
This isn't exactly true. The two are very different from eachother, maths is the language of physics, but the way you use maths in physics is different to just doing maths.
I enjoyed maths from year 8 (arithmetic annoyed me, but once we started other stuff it became really interesting) and because I loved space from a really young age and then became interested in the atom, etc. I then considered physics and loved it (From year 9 I wanted to become a nuclear physicist). I was told that if I love physics, then I should love engineering, but I loathed it.
Post by: ReVeL on February 02, 2010, 11:24:43 am
What is Accounting Reports and Analysis actually adn what's it like? I'm doing it in second semester purely based on the recommendation given to me by the student advisor that it's useful across all commece fields.
ARA is the foundation accounting subject that introduces you to the fundamental concepts and rules of financial accounting. I didn't do VCE Accounting, but from what people have told me who did do it, it is extremely similar. It isn't overly difficult if you put in a bit of work and are good with numbers. Although I didn't personally, a lot of people dislike this subject because they're reccommended to do it then hate accounting.
Post by: natty on February 02, 2010, 04:49:04 pm
Chemistry 1
Physics 1: Fundamentals =/=/
Managing & Leading Organisations
Post by: chewybacca on February 03, 2010, 11:39:47 am
Sounds like Managing People and Organisations :(306106 Accounting Processes and Analysis (used to be Business Process Analysis) (can anyone who's done this describe how it's like? ;D)
Absolutely awful subject I thought. It is an accounting subject, but theres no numbers. It focuses on the flow of data/information and how these processes within the business allow things like a sale to take place. It bored the living shit out of me (I quite enjoyed ARA and ATA mind you), but it's not overly difficult. After each week I'd ask myself 'What have I actually learnt in this subject?' and I could never really answer that question. Bring your common sense to the exam and you're almost certain to get 70+ even with minimal study. Probably my least favourite subject so far at uni.
BUT YOU MIGHT LIKE IT..? Haha
Haha yeah, it was pretty awful. I stopped going to lectures half way through, Trevor's jokes got to be too much :P
Sounds... "interesting". ;D I'll see how it goes.
Although I kinda agree with "common sense"; saw some past exam papers once for that subject and I could manage to get most of the MC qns correct without knowing anything about the content beforehand...
Post by: dejan91 on February 03, 2010, 06:47:47 pm
What is Accounting Reports and Analysis actually adn what's it like? I'm doing it in second semester purely based on the recommendation given to me by the student advisor that it's useful across all commece fields.
ARA is the foundation accounting subject that introduces you to the fundamental concepts and rules of financial accounting. I didn't do VCE Accounting, but from what people have told me who did do it, it is extremely similar. It isn't overly difficult if you put in a bit of work and are good with numbers. Although I didn't personally, a lot of people dislike this subject because they're reccommended to do it then hate accounting.
Ok, I see thanks. Well I just hope I like it!
Also, to anyone who can answer this, I've worked out (according to the handbook) that I'll have around 13 contact hours a week for first semester. Does this seem reasonable? To me, 13 hours sounds a bit too small a number.
Post by: ReVeL on February 03, 2010, 06:50:32 pm
4 subjects, each having 2x1 hour lecture + 1x1 hour tutorial = 4 subjects x 3 contact hours = 12 contact hours/week (Assuming breadth subjects have the same hours).
Gotta love uni.
Post by: dejan91 on February 03, 2010, 06:53:47 pm
Post by: chops_07 on February 03, 2010, 07:18:32 pm
I thought times are only available from Feb 22nd through Alloc-8.
Thanks
Post by: Edmund on February 03, 2010, 07:33:17 pm
Is the times for subjects from the handbook official?The lecture/tutorial/practical/seminar times are already out, but you will only know which ones you get allocated to on 22nd
I thought times are only available from Feb 22nd through Alloc-8.
Thanks
Post by: i.am.amanda on February 03, 2010, 08:06:55 pm
Breadth: Creativity, Play, and the Arts
Controversies in Australian History
Literature and Performance
=D
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on February 04, 2010, 12:09:46 am
Post by: d0minicz on February 04, 2010, 12:12:02 am
Calculus 2 seems amazing =Dhope it the last math i touch
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on February 04, 2010, 12:12:49 am
Post by: QuantumJG on February 04, 2010, 12:17:10 am
Calculus 2 seems amazing =Dhope it the last math i touch
Nooooooooo...
Post by: squance on February 04, 2010, 12:26:20 am
Calculus 2 seems amazing =D
It is amazing. YOU WILL LOVE IT <3
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on February 04, 2010, 12:27:57 am
Post by: QuantumJG on February 04, 2010, 12:40:23 am
I enjoyed linear algebra too, but the exam difficulty leaped up by a heap. We spent 'ONE' lecture on conics and a heap of marks were related to that.
Can't wait to start uni! :)
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on February 04, 2010, 12:54:01 am
How come - is it really exciting?
Post by: dejan91 on February 04, 2010, 01:26:45 pm
Calculus 2 seems amazing =D
You know, I don't love maths as much as you, but I can honestly say I am looking forward to calculus 2! (lol rhyme) Had a look at the description in the handbook, and seems quite the interesting subject.
Post by: QuantumJG on February 04, 2010, 02:36:21 pm
Ahh that's so scary. Thanks for telling me that, I'll be sure to look at Conics a fair bit.
How come - is it really exciting?
Conics isn't that hard at all, I just had a shocking lecturer (Sanming Zhou). :(
Mainly you are using maths that allows you to graph say an ellipse that is rotated and shifted to the right and upwards for an example.
For calc 2 try and have Craig Hodgson for your lecturer as he is really good (He is a lecturer for group theory and linear algebra - yay!). Also his qualifications are:
- Bachelor of Science (Honours) (UoM)
- Master of Science (UoM)
- Master of Arts (Princeton)
- PhD (Princeton)
For linear algebra try and get either:
- Deborah King (She sort of acts more like a high school teacher)
- Lawrence Reeves (He knows his stuff but I always thought he acted like an egotist - think of like an older version of Humph on VN)
I'm excited about uni because 75% of this year is maths and physics and there is a lot of cool stuff to learn.
Also to anyone who did real analysis, what is Arun Ram like as a lecturer? From his lecture on 'what is a mathematician?', he sounds like a very dedicated guy.
Also who do you guys believe is the best lecturer for Vector Calculus?
Post by: squance on February 04, 2010, 05:38:37 pm
Really?? I hope so!! Do you reckon I'll like Calculus 1?
Hmmm...not sure about Calculus 1. Calculus one is like a condensed version of VCE Specialist Maths.
It was an awful subject for me :( .
Just look forward to Calculus 2 :)
Post by: Kopite on February 04, 2010, 08:43:45 pm
Conics isn't that hard at all, I just had a shocking lecturer (Sanming Zhou). :(
lol....total idiot.
Post by: Pappa-Bohr on February 04, 2010, 10:02:34 pm
and yea I had Prof Reeves for lectures..he's nice but the 'egotist' description is right on lol
Post by: nicholasysc on February 04, 2010, 10:14:40 pm
cos I dont want to get a not so good lecturer :D
Post by: QuantumJG on February 04, 2010, 10:46:10 pm
Conics isn't that hard at all, I just had a shocking lecturer (Sanming Zhou). :(
lol....total idiot.
Edit:
qauntum everyone only had one lecture on conics...it's up to you to self learn the material and do harder examples..I did and I found the question on the exam one to be relatively easy..
and yea I had Prof Reeves for lectures..he's nice but the 'egotist' description is right on lol
Yep the question was easy and in the end it was me not preparing properly for the exam that caused this mark.
Post by: Kopite on February 04, 2010, 11:07:05 pm
Conics isn't that hard at all, I just had a shocking lecturer (Sanming Zhou). :(
lol....total idiot.
I deserved that.qauntum everyone only had one lecture on conics...it's up to you to self learn the material and do harder examples..I did and I found the question on the exam one to be relatively easy..
and yea I had Prof Reeves for lectures..he's nice but the 'egotist' description is right on lol
Yep the question was easy and in the end it was me not preparing properly for the exam that caused this mark.
lol noo...meant that lecturer. total douche he is.
Post by: darlok on February 04, 2010, 11:11:56 pm
Financial Math I
Business Finance
Probability
easy as pie
Post by: QuantumJG on February 04, 2010, 11:36:04 pm
Conics isn't that hard at all, I just had a shocking lecturer (Sanming Zhou). :(
lol....total idiot.
I deserved that.qauntum everyone only had one lecture on conics...it's up to you to self learn the material and do harder examples..I did and I found the question on the exam one to be relatively easy..
and yea I had Prof Reeves for lectures..he's nice but the 'egotist' description is right on lol
Yep the question was easy and in the end it was me not preparing properly for the exam that caused this mark.
lol noo...meant that lecturer. total douche he is.
Sorry for misunderstanding what you said. Well Sanming was pretty much that.
Post by: d0minicz on February 05, 2010, 03:06:07 am
121110 Famine in the Modern World - Breadth
610150 Chemistry for Biomedicine
620168 Experimental Design and Data Analysis
650121 Biomolecules and Cells
Post by: username on February 05, 2010, 02:08:48 pm
121110 Famine in the Modern World - Breadth
I did Famine!! Greattt subject and really easy to get a good grade, but the exam is ridiculously vague.
Post by: d0minicz on February 05, 2010, 04:23:01 pm
Post by: username on February 05, 2010, 06:50:31 pm
in what ways is it vague ?
Some of the exam questions were like 'What was [this person's] findings in [this] report'. That would be the whole question. Bear in mind that the course reader is massive and there is literally no way anyone could memorize all the names off by heart. Certain statistics also had to be memorized like 'number of people malnourished in Ethiopia in 2005'.
And dates. Lots and lots of dates when famines / droughts / natural disasters occured.
It was all multiple choice though.
Post by: dejan91 on February 07, 2010, 06:18:38 pm
Post by: dejan91 on February 07, 2010, 06:21:48 pm
Post by: ReVeL on February 07, 2010, 06:24:44 pm
Can we order our timetable (once it's out) to our liking? As in, can we choose when our lectures and tutes are and which days we are free on, etc?
Basically, you'll receive your timetable on the 22nd (I think) thats been auto-allocated. This is usually pretty shit, with lots of gaps and often has you coming in every day. The day after, you can move your classes around subject to capacity. So, if you've got a 10-11am lecture you can move it to say 12-1pm providing there is room (For the record, you can attend pretty much whichever lectures you want, it's only the allocated tutorials that you have to attend). Using this system you pretty much have to hope for the best and get in early, as all the good times generally fill up pretty quickly. That said, the system usually slows to a crawl when editing is enabled because of the amount of students trying to do so.
EDIT: Yes, if you try you *should* be able to get fridays off, depending on your subjects. I did Principles of Business Law which has 3 semester tests that only run on fridays.
Post by: dejan91 on February 07, 2010, 08:55:16 pm
Can we order our timetable (once it's out) to our liking? As in, can we choose when our lectures and tutes are and which days we are free on, etc?
Basically, you'll receive your timetable on the 22nd (I think) thats been auto-allocated. This is usually pretty shit, with lots of gaps and often has you coming in every day. The day after, you can move your classes around subject to capacity. So, if you've got a 10-11am lecture you can move it to say 12-1pm providing there is room (For the record, you can attend pretty much whichever lectures you want, it's only the allocated tutorials that you have to attend). Using this system you pretty much have to hope for the best and get in early, as all the good times generally fill up pretty quickly. That said, the system usually slows to a crawl when editing is enabled because of the amount of students trying to do so.
EDIT: Yes, if you try you *should* be able to get fridays off, depending on your subjects. I did Principles of Business Law which has 3 semester tests that only run on fridays.
Ok, I see now, thanks :) So do you recommend using the 22nd to plan out what we will change on the 23rd? And also, just to clarify, it's the tutorials that we'll be switching around and not the lectures, right?
Post by: Edmund on February 07, 2010, 09:05:50 pm
You can switch around anything provided there are 2 or more streamsCan we order our timetable (once it's out) to our liking? As in, can we choose when our lectures and tutes are and which days we are free on, etc?
Basically, you'll receive your timetable on the 22nd (I think) thats been auto-allocated. This is usually pretty shit, with lots of gaps and often has you coming in every day. The day after, you can move your classes around subject to capacity. So, if you've got a 10-11am lecture you can move it to say 12-1pm providing there is room (For the record, you can attend pretty much whichever lectures you want, it's only the allocated tutorials that you have to attend). Using this system you pretty much have to hope for the best and get in early, as all the good times generally fill up pretty quickly. That said, the system usually slows to a crawl when editing is enabled because of the amount of students trying to do so.
EDIT: Yes, if you try you *should* be able to get fridays off, depending on your subjects. I did Principles of Business Law which has 3 semester tests that only run on fridays.
Ok, I see now, thanks :) So do you recommend using the 22nd to plan out what we will change on the 23rd? And also, just to clarify, it's the tutorials that we'll be switching around and not the lectures, right?
Post by: ReVeL on February 07, 2010, 10:51:23 pm
Can we order our timetable (once it's out) to our liking? As in, can we choose when our lectures and tutes are and which days we are free on, etc?
Basically, you'll receive your timetable on the 22nd (I think) thats been auto-allocated. This is usually pretty shit, with lots of gaps and often has you coming in every day. The day after, you can move your classes around subject to capacity. So, if you've got a 10-11am lecture you can move it to say 12-1pm providing there is room (For the record, you can attend pretty much whichever lectures you want, it's only the allocated tutorials that you have to attend). Using this system you pretty much have to hope for the best and get in early, as all the good times generally fill up pretty quickly. That said, the system usually slows to a crawl when editing is enabled because of the amount of students trying to do so.
EDIT: Yes, if you try you *should* be able to get fridays off, depending on your subjects. I did Principles of Business Law which has 3 semester tests that only run on fridays.
Ok, I see now, thanks :) So do you recommend using the 22nd to plan out what we will change on the 23rd? And also, just to clarify, it's the tutorials that we'll be switching around and not the lectures, right?
Ideally yes. You can look at the lecture and tutorial times that are offered for the subject somewhere on the website, but be aware they could be full before you even get a chance to change (almost all good tutes are taken straight away). Pretty soon your e-mail inbox will be flooded with people trying to change tutes with you, so thats an alternative if you find one you like. I haven't done it but you just email them back then meet up and go to the student centre to swap your tutes.
Post by: ReVeL on February 07, 2010, 11:22:08 pm
Post by: d0minicz on February 08, 2010, 01:37:14 am
I looked at a past exam and shit myself
i know we are gonna learn all of that stuff eventually but would like to hear from some students =]
Post by: nicholasysc on February 08, 2010, 02:19:11 am
Hey can someone share their thoughts and experiences about Calculus 2
I looked at a past exam and shit myself
i know we are gonna learn all of that stuff eventually but would like to hear from some students =]
d0minicz are you doing Calculus 2 in semeater 1 or 2... I am doing Biomed as well and apparently we have to do it in semester2? :D
Post by: darlok on February 08, 2010, 02:33:43 am
I took it with some friends last year and we all found it fairly easy and all got 90+. It's fairly dry in parts, but if you enjoyed specialist, you will also enjoy this.
Tips for getting a good score:
1. Every couple of weeks read through the lecture notes, from the start up until your most recent lecture. I say this because when you take down the notes in lectures, you often do not pay attention to what you are actually writing. At first it will only take you 10 minutes to read through your notes, but by the end of the semester it will take you around an hour.
2. Take the assignments seriously. It's very nice in the lead up to exams to know you have a few spare points in the bag. The best way to do well in assignments is to do them with a couple of friends that aren't in your tute. Be meticulous with your answers, tutors will often take off marks for seemingly stupid things.
3. The mid semester test is usually after the mid semester break, so take advantage of this break to study for the test.
4. Your have two main resources for doing well in the exam. Firstly, the green question book that you will receive in your first lecture. If you do every one of these questions you will have a firm grasp of the subject matter. Now you need to polish your Calc II exam taking ability. Calc 2 practice exams are readily available. Depending on your exam schedule, leave yourself a few whole days to go over practice exams. If you find yourself in need of more practice material, go through your tute questions again.
Post by: d0minicz on February 08, 2010, 02:50:22 am
yeah sem 2 =]Hey can someone share their thoughts and experiences about Calculus 2
I looked at a past exam and shit myself
i know we are gonna learn all of that stuff eventually but would like to hear from some students =]
d0minicz are you doing Calculus 2 in semeater 1 or 2... I am doing Biomed as well and apparently we have to do it in semester2? :D
RE: Calc 2ahh ok
I took it with some friends last year and we all found it fairly easy and all got 90+. It's fairly dry in parts, but if you enjoyed specialist, you will also enjoy this.
Tips for getting a good score:
1. Every couple of weeks read through the lecture notes, from the start up until your most recent lecture. I say this because when you take down the notes in lectures, you often do not pay attention to what you are actually writing. At first it will only take you 10 minutes to read through your notes, but by the end of the semester it will take you around an hour.
2. Take the assignments seriously. It's very nice in the lead up to exams to know you have a few spare points in the bag. The best way to do well in assignments is to do them with a couple of friends that aren't in your tute. Be meticulous with your answers, tutors will often take off marks for seemingly stupid things.
3. The mid semester test is usually after the mid semester break, so take advantage of this break to study for the test.
4. Your have two main resources for doing well in the exam. Firstly, the green question book that you will receive in your first lecture. If you do every one of these questions you will have a firm grasp of the subject matter. Now you need to polish your Calc II exam taking ability. Calc 2 practice exams are readily available. Depending on your exam schedule, leave yourself a few whole days to go over practice exams. If you find yourself in need of more practice material, go through your tute questions again.
were you and your friends usually high scorers in math ?
Post by: QuantumJG on February 08, 2010, 03:40:07 pm
Hey can someone share their thoughts and experiences about Calculus 2
I looked at a past exam and shit myself
i know we are gonna learn all of that stuff eventually but would like to hear from some students =]
Calc 2 is an easy H1 subject (my only H1 subject :( ) if you work smart.
If you are a person who naturally loves calculus then you will find it a lot of fun. The main things to do are:
- Buy the lecture notes book! This is all you need to learn about the concepts (DO NOT buy the text book - I'm practically trying to give mine away). If you have the luck of getting Craig Hodgson (My favourite lecturer) then stick with him.
- Your exercise book is your bible! This book should be finished front to back, scribbled on so you can look at it and questions you felt 'so-so' on and constantly do them until you feel confident. This will hold questions that are similar to exam questions.
- The subject runs really smoothly until you hit differential equations and here is when you step up your game to keep your results consistent. Then right at the end you really start having fun with partial derivatives (
- With assignments before you hand them in check (don't copy) with another person just to make sure you didn't make any careless mistakes. Try to do them in advance, because a cople of marks in the bag are good. With the test, make sure you iron out any problems and then attempt the practice test.
Anyway I absolutely loved this subject (It would be easier to tutor in this than specialist maths) so have fun and good luck.
Feel free to ask me for any help, but I WONT be doing assignments for people.
Post by: trinon on February 14, 2010, 04:28:44 am
Physics 1: Advanced
Philosophy: The Great Thinkers
Calculus 2
Linear Algebra
Semester 2:
Physics 2: Advanced
Philosophy: The Big Questions
Real Analysis with Applications
Informatics 1: Practical Computing
.. or if you want to see the img version
http://trinon.info/newcurrentsubjects.png
Post by: QuantumJG on February 14, 2010, 04:48:38 pm
Semester 1:
Physics 1: Advanced
Philosophy: The Great Thinkers
Calculus 2
Linear Algebra
Semester 2:
Physics 2: Advanced
Philosophy: The Big Questions
Real Analysis with Applications
Informatics 1: Practical Computing
.. or if you want to see the img version
http://trinon.info/newcurrentsubjects.png
Awesome selection of subjects. It's a shame I won't see you in Real Analysis though.
Post by: trinon on February 14, 2010, 08:02:08 pm
Semester 1:
Physics 1: Advanced
Philosophy: The Great Thinkers
Calculus 2
Linear Algebra
Semester 2:
Physics 2: Advanced
Philosophy: The Big Questions
Real Analysis with Applications
Informatics 1: Practical Computing
.. or if you want to see the img version
http://trinon.info/newcurrentsubjects.png
Awesome selection of subjects. It's a shame I won't see you in Real Analysis though.
I'm guessing you did Acc Maths 1/2?
Post by: QuantumJG on February 16, 2010, 12:01:52 am
Semester 1:
Physics 1: Advanced
Philosophy: The Great Thinkers
Calculus 2
Linear Algebra
Semester 2:
Physics 2: Advanced
Philosophy: The Big Questions
Real Analysis with Applications
Informatics 1: Practical Computing
.. or if you want to see the img version
http://trinon.info/newcurrentsubjects.png
Awesome selection of subjects. It's a shame I won't see you in Real Analysis though.
I'm guessing you did Acc Maths 1/2?
No way! I did calc 2 & linear algebra and had an EPIC fail with linear algebra (65%) and learnt how to not sit an exam.
Anyway acc maths 1 & 2 is calc 2, linear algebra and real analysis. You could aswell drop informatics 1 and do Vector calculus.
Post by: trinon on February 16, 2010, 01:05:18 am
Semester 1:
Physics 1: Advanced
Philosophy: The Great Thinkers
Calculus 2
Linear Algebra
Semester 2:
Physics 2: Advanced
Philosophy: The Big Questions
Real Analysis with Applications
Informatics 1: Practical Computing
.. or if you want to see the img version
http://trinon.info/newcurrentsubjects.png
Awesome selection of subjects. It's a shame I won't see you in Real Analysis though.
I'm guessing you did Acc Maths 1/2?
No way! I did calc 2 & linear algebra and had an EPIC fail with linear algebra (65%) and learnt how to not sit an exam.
Anyway acc maths 1 & 2 is calc 2, linear algebra and real analysis. You could aswell drop informatics 1 and do Vector calculus.
That's exactly what I want to do but I have to do at least 5 first year science subjects... Otherwise I would totally do Vector Calculus... Hell I might anyways :P