Undergrad Med Uni Requirements

[vexx]

Guys, someone mentioned some forms that I'd have to fill out for adelade. Where are they? I've registered to their app tracking thingo, but I don't see any forms. Need to take care of UWS/JCU soon, not sure if I'll bother with UNSW as it doesn't really offer much that I'm interested in and is prolly the most competitive uni out there.

if u didnt put in satac preferences for adeliade at the end of last month, u missed out on 2011 entry: they were the only uni to end applications early already

*prays enough people forgot to apply in time for me to get in*

jks :p

From what I hear,  Adelaide is a hole anyway.  It is last resort option.

Adelaide actually (apparently) has an amazing community and is quite social and fun going to the uni, but it is no big city.
I have yet to visit it, but heard good things from someone i know doing med there.

That said, I'm still not sure i would go there though. ha

[vexx]

^ Yep.

Medmedmedmedmedmedmemdemdmedmed.
I just want UNSW:'(

[wildareal]

2-3 years of your med degree are spent in clinical placements depending on uni; these placements occour in blocks and place you in different specialist (I use the term 'specialist' loosely) environments. Some med degrees are ugrad (MBBS/Bmed/MBChB) and some are grad (MBBS/BMBS/MBChB/MD pretentious melbourne model). These degrees are equivalent. After you finish your 4-6 year med degree, you will enter into internship for 1 year, and then from there you work on resume etc and attempt to gain fellowship. The process of becoming a fellow takes ~10 years, and is very competitive for some specialties and less so for others. Saying people 'settle for GP' is a bit insulting, as it's a valid choice for many reasons and isn't really inferior in any way to other choices. 2 years of training and then a 9-5 job is practical for facilitating family life etc. GPs are essential to Australia; our health system would be nowhere without primary care. All med degrees in Australia are considered roughly equivalent and of a very high standard; you will not lose a chance to gain a fellowship due to being a graduate of a newer school eg. UWS. I've heard rumors that Bond may lose accreditation in the near future, but I don't know for sure if this is true.

Insulting to say settle for GPs? You aren't a GP, so how would you know?
GP is one of the easiest specialists to get into, and people settle for it because they decide they want an easier lifestyle, not as many work hours, more flexibility, to not have to compete so hard for a spot.

And Bond won't lose its accreditation, it was at risk a few years back but they apparently addressed those issues, it'll only improve from here (one would hope...)

Well considering there's people in my cohort who are already set on becoming GPs, it'd be safe to say that they'd be likely to be offended if you referred to them as simply 'settling' as being a GP when they were clearly intending in doing so from the beginning. Although some people would be those who 'settle' for being a GP, don't assume that everyone is doing it for that reason.

I didn't really mean it like that, but yes of course some people would want to be a GP from the start, but there are others who will end up settling for it.

Yeh sorry, read it in the context you wrote it in and that's fair enough. In the minds of those people, it would be settling for it because you'd just be so fed up with not progressing in your career amongst other reasons that you mentioned =/

Yepp some people are like that (as i've read, clearly not from my experiences) and others just want that lifestyle.
It's like someone who wants to do dentistry, it's not always that they are 'settling for it because they can't do medicine', i've spoke to some people who had dent first pref and put down med as a second preference xD

If I really wanted to do dentistry I would put dentistry as 1st pref and Science as 2nd... so I can have the graduate pathway for dent.

Do you know how good dentistry is. The hours are great. The money is excellent. The job is very interesting.

[eeps]

I'd agree Dentistry is a good alternative to Medicine. Being a Dentist offers you flexible hours (unlike Doctors, where you may be on-call) and very good pay. A family friend of my parents is a Dentist. She earns a few thousands a week or something. It's also quite good in that you finish uni earlier than you would doing Medicine + the requirements for Dentistry are less, I think. The only real issue with being a Dentist, is finding a good premises/location to set up... and the costs associated with purchasing it.

[RainerWolfram]

Do you know how good dentistry is. The hours are great. The money is excellent.

None of those factors matter. The real question is, whether you're passionate about dentistry or not. Don't let the money, family expectations and the status become your major source of influence. Picture yourself in a clinic everyday, cleaning patient's teeth, checking for cavities and enduring bad breath. Could you do this for the rest of your life without a passion? Some people can handle it. Some people can't. And for the individuals who can't, they are likely to be more prone to depression and suicide than others. The majority of our population hate their jobs, right? But for dentists, it's a different case - it is not your average job. Dentist is regarded as highly stressful job because responsibility is higher than average. You're dealing with patients, not computers and machines and dentists experience numerous workplace, financial, practice management and societal issues for which they often are unprepared for. You have to also adopt a calm and positive attitude while working under stressful conditions. And these are the reasons why dentists have such a large suicide rate in contrast to other occupations. What I'm trying to say is you shouldn't do dentistry because you couldn't gain entry into medicine. They are two completely different fields. Or you shouldn't do dentistry to make use of your ENTER score. Just do what you feel passionate about. Confucius once said, 'Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life'

[vexx]

+1000000 to what Daniel said, money means nothing if you aren't going to be happy in your job. What's better, having a stable income and at the verge of suicide (maybe in more extreme cases) or your happiness doing something you love?

[stonecold]

Ugghh, spending the better part of the day in someones mouth.  No thanks.

[happyhappyland]

I always thought dentistry was all about the money.

[matt123]

I always thought dentistry was all about the money.

it is my friend
as if anyone wants to stick their face in a old guys smoked up teeth for 30 mins?

personaly id rather do basket weeving or trolley pushing if it was for "enjoyment"

hahah nah honestly tho . some people i guess . " like it"
but .. the money factor is always there too

[vexx]

I always thought dentistry was all about the money.

it is my friend
as if anyone wants to stick their face in a old guys smoked up teeth for 30 mins?

personaly id rather do basket weeving or trolley pushing if it was for "enjoyment"

hahah nah honestly tho . some people i guess . " like it"
but .. the money factor is always there too

haha yeah there are people who do like it (from what i've red on medicine forums), i don't get it but mehh we all have different tastes,,

[HERculina]

who would be interested in the art of smelly breath, grouse stains and unflossed teeth?  :idiot2:

[stonecold]

who would be interested in the art of smelly breath, grouse stains and unflossed teeth?  :idiot2:

+ 1

Ah well, I guess someone has to do it hehe

[stonecold]

My UNSW application: 959 words of A-grade bullshit!

[happyhappyland]

My UNSW application: 959 words of A-grade bullshit!

You do realise that the application is mainly used for reference during your interview..

[vexx]

My UNSW application: 959 words of A-grade bullshit!

You do realise that the application is mainly used for reference during your interview..

haha yeah it's not counted towards anything, just simply something they can talk about with you