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Log book
« on: December 28, 2010, 04:10:39 pm »
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Just wondering what do they look for in the log book to see if you forged it?

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Re: Log book
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2010, 04:51:36 pm »
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They just check for consistency of the entries to see if they were possible to complete in that time.
They generally also look to see if all the signatures match up along with the start of the book to see if they have not been forged.
They will also generally check the length of each session and a quick glance to see if the hours add up.

All depends on who you get though, some just quickly look whereas others look a lot longer but the case is that they have become more strict since they know some people fake most of their hours.
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Re: Log book
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2010, 05:03:44 pm »
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Oh ok, so they don't go into calculating the distance you travelled and match it up with the various time intervals to see if they are correct right?

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Re: Log book
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2010, 05:22:37 pm »
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They will glance along each row and if there's something off they'll take a closer look (don't forge your hours)

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Re: Log book
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2010, 06:37:48 pm »
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If you took you 5hours to do 10km they're gonna know you cheated.

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Re: Log book
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2010, 06:42:13 pm »
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Is it alright to do 10 minute (or even 30 minute depending on how long I drive) intervals? I'm filling mine in and I can't be stuffed writing it to the minute.
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Re: Log book
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2010, 07:55:20 pm »
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30 minutes is probably too broad, I did 5 minute intervals and it was fine. 10 minutes would probably also be fine, just don't be right on 120 hours

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Re: Log book
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2010, 10:31:46 pm »
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Do they check the odometer readings? Those are miles off for me.
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Re: Log book
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2010, 10:48:57 pm »
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30 minutes is probably too broad, I did 5 minute intervals and it was fine. 10 minutes would probably also be fine, just don't be right on 120 hours
I'm on like 150 hours, but every entry was 30m, 45m, 1h, 1h30m or 2h (it really is anything between 20m-30m, 50m-1h, 1h10m-1h30) but I never check the actual times.

Do they check the odometer readings? Those are miles off for me.
I think they just check if the distance is realistic with the time driven (then again they might need to consider parking practice and all that). They will probably check a couple every page to see if it is consistent and not completely random
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Re: Log book
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2010, 01:31:20 pm »
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When I went for my test, the supervisor just glanced through every page, looking very briefly for inconsistencies.
My logbook was pretty much trashed (page missing, written in pencil, red, green, purple, blue and black pen, mistakes everywhere etc.). The only thing she cared about was checking the total figure (just reading it) and getting my mum to fix her signature.

Just make sure you have more than 120 hours just in case. They rarely pick up if someone has forged some entries.

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Re: Log book
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2010, 01:45:14 pm »
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Oh ok its good that they aren't as pedantic and I thought they would be then

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Re: Log book
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2010, 02:36:19 pm »
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I'm just cautious because on every page they have "WARNING: HEAVY PENALTIES APPLY FOR FALSE OR MISLEADING ENTRIES", which is a 'significant' fine or even jail time. Seriously? Jail time for falsely completing a log book..

And also it says if your log book is incomplete/incorrect you lose your booking and test fees and gotta wait 6 weeks to do it again.
When I went for my test, the supervisor just glanced through every page, looking very briefly for inconsistencies.
My logbook was pretty much trashed (page missing, written in pencil, red, green, purple, blue and black pen, mistakes everywhere etc.). The only thing she cared about was checking the total figure (just reading it) and getting my mum to fix her signature.

Just make sure you have more than 120 hours just in case. They rarely pick up if someone has forged some entries.
After reading that I think it just depends on the employee, but I guess most of them don't care anyway (since theres no commission or anything).
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Re: Log book
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2010, 05:00:53 pm »
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Seriously? Jail time for falsely completing a log book..

That results in you getting a license to drive a car unsupervised. We have enough idiots on the road already, we definitely don't need more so the penalty is entirely justified

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Re: Log book
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2010, 05:29:16 pm »
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False information includes like simple errors too right?

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Re: Log book
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2010, 07:02:35 pm »
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Seriously? Jail time for falsely completing a log book..

That results in you getting a license to drive a car unsupervised. We have enough idiots on the road already, we definitely don't need more so the penalty is entirely justified
I would have assumed the driving test itself will justify the capabilities of a driver, I can also see how issuing a fine is okay but apart from that I don't think jail time is necessary if you falsify entries.

False information includes like simple errors too right?
I don't think simple errors, they have to be pretty blatant for them to consider it in the first place
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